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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 02:19 PM
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Kos: "Edwards fires back"
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/6/7/11437/00894

Edwards: 'Dean was right'
by kos
Tue Jun 7th, 2005 at 08:04:37 PDT

News stories over the weekend claimed Edwards "attacked" Dean. Edwards fires back on his blog:

"What a flap has arisen over a disagreement about the way something is said! I was in Nashville over the weekend, thanking the good people of Tennessee who supported the Democratic presidential ticket this year, when I was asked whether I thought that it was fair to say that people who were Republican hadn't done a good day's work. Of course, I didn't think so, and I said that. I don't think our DNC chair, Howard Dean, would put it that way again if asked either. I disagreed with him, and I said so. And, I want to be clear, I would have to say so again if I were asked again. I said a lot of good things about Howard's outreach program and invigoration of the internet as a communication and fundraising tool, but no one wrote about that. Instead the headlines blared that I disagreed with Howard. And then the flap arose: A chasm! A split! A revolt!
Instead, how about: Nonsense!

We are both talking about the Republicans and their failure to address the needs of working people. We both agree with this basic truth: This Republican president and this Republican majority are not doing what they should be doing for working people in this country. That's a core belief we need to fight for. And what's more, we agree that we - all Democrats and all working people - should be complaining, criticizing, and generally speaking out about this critical failure of the Republican party and offering our positive vision for America. And we have.

Howard and I have been saying the same thing about this for years. Hear that? The same thing. For years." http://blog.oneamericacommittee.com/

For the record, here's the context for Dean's much-criticized comments:
You -- (applause continues) -- you know, the idea that you have to wait on line for eight hours to cast your ballot in Florida -- there's something the matter with that. You think people can work all day and then pick up their kids at child care or wherever, and get home and then have a -- still manage to sandwich in an eight-hour vote? Well, Republicans, I guess, can do that, because a lot of them have never made an honest living in their lives. (Light applause.) But for ordinary working people, who have to work eight hours a day, they have kids, they got to get home to those kids, the idea of making them stand for eight hours to cast their ballot for democracy is wrong. We ought to make voting easier to do. Mail -- Oregon has got it right. (Applause.)

*Looks a bit different in its proper context

*emphasis added

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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 02:21 PM
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1. Thanks for posting this.
kick.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 02:22 PM
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2. Thank you Senator Edwards.
Yet another lesson in "don't comment til you know everything" media relations.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 02:34 PM
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10. I wondered about the way that was playing
Whether I was getting the full story. I like Edwards, so it frusterated me to see him taking a pot shot at Dean. Good to see the whole truth come out.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 02:22 PM
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3. .
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 02:22 PM
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4. Hah... love this.
In your face, word twisters!
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 02:23 PM
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5. Thank you for posting this. Nominated.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 02:23 PM
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6. Shhh don't tell anyone then they won't have anything to fight about.
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blue neen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 02:44 PM
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11. Oh, I'm sure they'll find something!
It sure does seem like some people around here enjoy their fighting with and about fellow Democrats! ;)
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 02:25 PM
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7. As Usual, the facts were fixed to fit the desired picture the MSM
wanted to paint. They are bought and paid for....
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 02:31 PM
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8. Exactly! The MSM is still up to their dirty tricks.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 02:32 PM
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9. So, what's his squawk with what Dean said?
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 02:58 PM
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12. Kick for Dean and Edwards! Fighting the same fight!
excerpt from Senator Edwards blog post:

"The safety net is eroding. The ladder has been pulled up. This is not new. For more than two decades, the Republican Party has talked about an agenda that addresses concerns of working people while they have passed an agenda that serves the goals of the wealthiest among us. Howard and I know that these are the wrong choices for America. We won’t always use the same words. But we will always fight the same fight: for the dignity, the respect, and the rights of those who built this country, the working people in America."

Your friend,

John
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 03:05 PM
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15. When DEMS stand on principles they kick major BUTT
Edited on Tue Jun-07-05 03:06 PM by FogerRox
Notice how we read of Edwards comments and then Rally around Dean & Edwards.


Thats right-- stand up for whats right and let 'em deal with a united front

ROj has 60's music playin in the background--

"power-- to-- the--- people"
"power to the people, right on"
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 03:07 PM
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16. They aren't fighting the same fight
Dean, the Chairman for the DNC is fighting FOR THE PEOPLE.

Edwards, a DCLer who now holds NO political office, is fighting for the corporations.

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AmBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 04:30 PM
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24. Excuse me???
Have you listened at all to Edwards' speeches? I don't care if he is a member of the DLC, Edwards has always passionately stood FOR the people and AGAINST corporations, in his entire career as an attorney and as a senator.
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AmBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 03:04 PM
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13. Love that smackdown from John Edwards!!
"Hear that?" M$S are you LISTENING????? Smart man to use the internet to quickly counter the bullshit.

Love it!
:kick:
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 03:04 PM
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14. thanks for posting this. I like Edwards and hoped this was the case
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 03:12 PM
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17. Just saw this reported on CNN... good for Edwards.
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jre4me08 Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 03:15 PM
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18. Edwards/Dean
1. Governor Dean should not have said what he said.

2. Governor Dean admitted he was wrong to have said it.

3. Senator Edwards disagreed with what Governor Dean said.

4. Senator Edwards is an honest man.

5. Senator Edwards was expressing his honest opinion.

6. I like honest people.

7. I like knowing where people stand.

8. I always know where John Edwards stands.

9. I'm very proud to be a John Edwards supporter.

10. Any questions?

-- Marcia in Des Moines
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AmBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 03:22 PM
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19. Welcome to DU, jre4me08
Glad to see ya here!! :hi:
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 03:27 PM
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20. I'm very proud to be a JRE supporter too !
Welcome to DU Marcia from Des Moines ! I think I know you from OneAmerica and/or JREgrassroots. Proud to be "your" supporter too :)
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 03:43 PM
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22. Welcome to DU, jre4me08!
:hi:
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 05:24 PM
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25. Hi jre4me08!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Inspired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 07:39 PM
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28. From one newbie to another
Welcome to the DU!

:grouphug:
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 03:41 PM
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21. Anyone heard from Joe Biden?
Anyone? :eyes:
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jre4me08 Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 04:01 PM
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23. RE: Anyone heard from Joe Biden...
No. He doesn't write. He doesn't call. Sigh...
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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 05:30 PM
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26. Thank you Mr Edwards...
for showing that the MSM has been bought and paid for...and for making the right wing repukes eat their words...!
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 05:31 PM
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27. I thought the CM exploitation was obvious.
But, I guess I'm just used to the BS.
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Inspired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 07:44 PM
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29. A great response from Edwards!
Thanks for sharing.

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