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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 04:44 PM
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THIS SHIT'S GOT TO STOP *NOW* (Come, get pissed with me!)
The PNAC has taken over the WH, the Pentagon, and the World Bank, with their sights on the Judiciary and the U.N..... World Domination Complete.

THIS IS THE BOTTOM-LINE ISSUE THAT NO ONE IS ADDRESSING!

With the DSM cracking open the door and percolating under the suface, we need to ask Congress and the MSM this one question over, and over, and over again UNTIL WE GET AN ANSWER!

===============================================
On January 26, 1998, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Elliott Abrams, Richard Perle, Richard Armitage, and John Bolton (among others) signed a letter to President Clinton issued by the Project for a New American Century (PNAC) urging an attack on Iraq to remove Saddam Hussein from power. All of the aforementioned signators were elevated into the Bush Administration hierarchy immediately after the 2000 Election.

http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm


It is obvious that the PNAC-populated White House intended to attack Iraq years before the actual event.

Why isn't the PNAC policy being connected with the Downing Street Minutes?


For further details on the PNAC see:
http://demopedia.democraticunderground.com/index.php/PNAC_101
=================================================

If the squeaky wheel gets the grease then we need to repeatedly, relentlessly, day-after-day scream at the top of our voices, bombard their email boxes and clog their phone lines and faxes with the message above (VERBATIM) until we're heard and someone steps up to the plate and out in the open with the Truth!

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH ALREADY

Forget everything else until this one question is answered!


(Does anyone happen to have a contact list for the foreign press since they're more likely to investigate and "break" a story like this)
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 04:47 PM
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1. If it's too late, the US will be distroyed by and will have to be rebuilt
this is the hard way, but it might be the only way.
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extropianDreams Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 01:56 AM
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71. ENERGY FLOWS WHERE ATTENTION GOES!!!

all of this energy gushing toward complaining about how phukt up things are just makes it worse!

what you resist persists. if we keep blowin' our mojo on describing the hell that the evil empire is creating it just gives it more validity. this is EXACTLY what a fascist order wants! I'm not saying that being a watchdog of their criminal behavior isn't necessary but when it completely takes us away from doing simple positive grass roots actions then they just sit back and laugh. it is a paradox to engage in anti-fascist rhetoric because then one needs to keep shouting louder and louder to be heard and then the energy is pissed down a hole and lost.

the simple reality is that if we stop pissing the energy away on perpetual complaint then there will be positive actions will float to the top. it seems like there is a need to reprise the behaviors of the 60s and 70s in the form of angry protest but the true power was in the "peace-ins", "love-ins", etc. getting together and connecting via heart, mind & soul will bring about the world we want for ourselves and our children. getting together and putting the collective mojo to hating someone or something just acknowledges the power they have over us.
this is their agenda from the get-go. this is documented in books about how Hitler used the occult to gain power. garner blind rage and hatred from the oppressed and they are under your power!
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 04:49 PM
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2. PNAC policy? What the hell is the PNAC?
Yes, I know what the PNAC is.

My point is, how in the world can their policies and stated goals be connected with DSM when most of the American public hasn't even heard of PNAC?
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 04:51 PM
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3. That's why they have to be informed
Ignorance is the problem indeed. And only knowledge can overcome ignorance!
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 04:52 PM
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5. I wouldn't know about PNAC if I didn't read about it here.
We have to spread the word.
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JRob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 04:56 PM
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7. same here... nt
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 05:24 PM
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31. Maybe we could get someone on "Survivor" to mention it.
The complacency of the American people pisses me off. Democracy is a participatory form of government. If you don't participate, don't be surprised when it's gone.

:banghead:
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tallahasseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 06:03 PM
Response to Reply #31
44. LOL! Maybe we can write a song about it...
and one of the American Idol contestants can sing about it.
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 10:01 PM
Response to Reply #44
52. That's an even better idea!
Wish I were more creative.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 04:57 PM
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Well, that's the thing
Before we can even go into the connections, we have to explain the PNAC to the public.

What I am saying is: That's why no connections or links or similarities are being reported. No one knows what the hell PNAC is.

But I am trying to change that. I have been telling everyone I know for quite some time.
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 04:58 PM
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11. Is any group tackling this education problem like some have with the DSM?
Sounds like the time is right.
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 05:00 PM
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13. PNAC.com isn't available. Any ideas?
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 05:04 PM
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15. PNAC.info
It is online already
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 05:05 PM
Response to Reply #15
18. Thanks!
I'm looking at it now.
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 05:04 PM
Response to Reply #13
16. These are available:
Available:

pnac.biz pnac.tv
pnac.cc


Isn't it better to have a .com?
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 05:04 PM
Response to Reply #13
17. self-delete
Edited on Tue Jun-07-05 05:07 PM by LunaC
Never mind. I misunderstood. My bad.


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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 05:14 PM
Response to Reply #17
27. Actually, I think your suggestion is better for people who know nothing
about PNAC than .info site. It gives the basic information without having to dig.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 06:26 PM
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48. Here's the link, same as it's been for years
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 02:05 PM
Response to Reply #13
68. THEPNAC.COM
:)
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 11:36 PM
Response to Reply #3
57. How and the F did this BFEE get where they are!?! Wow-Ee!
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 06:06 PM
Response to Reply #2
46. Excellent point and that's why I think PNAC
deserves it's own independent investigation. Like that's going to happen.

"non-profit, educational organization whose goal is to promote American global leadership."

What an innocuous sounding statement to describe a cabal of greedy individuals intent on world domination and personal financial gain. It's the personification of evil.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 11:42 PM
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58. PNAC (Internet) 101
Edited on Tue Jun-07-05 11:46 PM by AuntiBush
New American Century: http://www.newamericancentury.org/

Oil Empire US Dictionary: a "neo-conservative" think tank that includes many of the senior members of the Bush regime. The PNAC's September 2000 report "Rebuilding America's Defenses" suggested that "The process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event -- like a new Pearl Harbor."

a "neo-conservative" think tank that includes many of the senior members of the Bush regime. The PNAC's September 2000 report "Rebuilding America's Defenses" suggested that "The process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event -- like a new Pearl Harbor." http://www.oilempire.us/dictionary.html

# The Project for the New American Century, or PNAC, is a Washington, DC based think tank. The group was established in spring 1997 as a non-profit organization with the goal of promoting "American global leadership". The chairman is William Kristol, editor of the Weekly Standard, which is owned by Rupert Murdoch, the chief executive of Fox News Channel, which owns Fox News. The group is an initiative of the New Citizenship Project, a non-profit 501c3 organization that is funded by the Bradley Foundation:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PNAC

Wikipedia Definition: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PNAC

TV NewsLine's "Learn about Media Deception:" http://www.tvnewslies.org/html/pnac.html

PNCA INFORATION: PNAC Watch -- Exposing the Project for the New American Century's plan for a unipolar world: http://www.pnac.info/

Information Clearing House: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article1665.htm
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pgh_dem Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 04:51 PM
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4. Just for the sake of creepiness...
Pronounce PNAC with pn like pneumonia, a like ahhh, then the letter 'cee'.

(like Electric Company)
Nnnn---aaa---ceee
Nnnaaaaceeee
Nnaaacee
Nacee
Nazi.

:tinfoilhat:
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 04:57 PM
Response to Reply #4
9. LOL. That's a stretch, but its very appropriate
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 06:01 PM
Response to Reply #4
42. That's a good one. I was just calling them p-nazis, to distinguish them
from their ancestors.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 04:52 PM
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6. I'm sending to key Senators and Reps
but I have no foreign press info - sorry.
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 05:00 PM
Response to Reply #6
12. Thanks
Edited on Tue Jun-07-05 05:02 PM by LunaC
WE have to educate and enable those in power with the public's attention if we ever expect to get aywhere.

Activism, people......ACTIVISM!!!


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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 05:03 PM
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14. Does this help?
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 05:11 PM
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23. Beautiful! Thanks n/t
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 04:57 PM
Response to Original message
8. I'm pissed
and kicking this for you.

:kick:
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JRob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 04:57 PM
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10. kick
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 05:06 PM
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19. B.C.C.I.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 05:07 PM
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20. Truth is our most powerful weapon!
Keep throwing truth at them...the bastards don't know what to do with it!

peace.
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 05:07 PM
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21. Send it here - that should wake some people up
http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage

I did try to find other foreign media outlets. No grouping that I could find but a search of each country would be easy.
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 05:17 PM
Response to Reply #21
29. LOL - Good one!
But would I then be classified as a Keyboard Enemy Collaborator?



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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 05:27 PM
Response to Reply #29
32. Well shit - I just sent the whole thread to them !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But I'm sure I'll be the one who is arrested so don't worry anyone.


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


WAIT A MINUTE!

:scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared:


AH WHAT THE HELL

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 05:35 PM
Response to Reply #32
36. Way to go, Maraya1969!
:toast:

Let us know if you need bail money.
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 05:57 PM
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38. ROFL I'll tell them to call "MelissaB" please
:hide: :hide: :hide: :hide: :hide: :hide: <<<< ME
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 05:59 PM
Response to Reply #36
39. I'll pitch in on that if need be.
LOL!
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 05:08 PM
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22. I told a "moderate" repuke friend about PNAC.
He develops programming for the history channel and would be in a position to try to publicize it. He was terrified of even having the information. Didn't want me to send him the link even. Was afraid someone in the administration would find out and he'd be toast. I'm not kidding. There's real, genuine paranoia out there.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 05:12 PM
Response to Reply #22
24. I saw that same paranoia
in a fellow I know that works for the National Enquirer. As soon as I brought up the anthrax attack, he couldn't get away from me fast enough. It was chilling.

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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 05:12 PM
Response to Reply #22
25. "afraid of truth".....oh that is rich
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 06:01 PM
Response to Reply #22
41. That is alarming and I've seen evidence of it too.
I gave PNAC information to a newspaper editor and it was treated as if it contained the ebola virus.
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emcguffie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 05:13 PM
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26. This was obvious in 2001.
I don't know if the media truly didn't see it, but an awful lot of people did, and it was ignored and ignored and ignored.

It was all orchestrated. Until we change the media, we have no power.
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 05:15 PM
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28. Here's one for Canada
http://www.tc.gc.ca/en/contact-us.htm

• Email: webfeedback@tc.gc.ca
• Phone: (613) 990-2309
• TTY: 1-888-675-6863
• Fax: (613) 954-4731 / 998-8620


Mailing Address:
Transport Canada
330 Sparks Street
Ottawa, ON
K1A 0N5
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 05:20 PM
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30. Reuters Canada
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 06:02 PM
Response to Reply #30
43. Check out Post #40 - Media list BONANZA! n/t
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 05:27 PM
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33. I found the relative lack of outrage in the foreign press (I expected
it here) over the installation of Wolfowitz at the World Bank to be extremely telling--and chilling.

We are so globally screwed.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 05:28 PM
Response to Reply #33
34. it is amazing how they have installed all the "foxes to guard the hens"
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 05:29 PM
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35. This one says it all. (see below)
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 05:45 PM
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37. Oh heeeeeeeellll yes!!! I absolutely wuv you WunaC!!!
and hate the PNAC fucktwerps that are destroying the world in pursuit of their hegemonic ambitions!!!:mad: :puke: :argh: :grr: :nuke: :scared: :thumbsdown: :banghead:


But you!! I just lurve the hell outa ya!
:) :toast: :party: :bounce: :hug: :hug: :pals: :headbang: :yourock: :woohoo:


and

:applause: :applause: :applause:
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 06:06 PM
Response to Reply #37
45. ::blush::
Aw, gee, shucks....tweren't nuthin!

But check out Post #40 - it's a Media list BONANZA!!!

Oooooo.....it gives me chills


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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 06:00 PM
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40. Media list! Get 'yer Media list here!

I KNEW I had this stashed somewhere.....the best damn media list EVER!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1956556


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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 06:19 PM
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47. Note to email activists
If your going to cut and paste the one question in the original post, you'll need to correct the PNAC 101 link because it got truncated.....add AC_101 to the end and you're good to go.


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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 06:42 PM
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49. SELF-SERVING KICK
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 07:03 PM
Response to Reply #49
50. kick
:kick:
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 09:12 PM
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51. Randi Rhodes is talking about PNAC practically on a daily basis.
She is making the connection to the DSM.
I'll send her your post though. It can't be mentioned enough. No hope of anyone else mentioning it in the MSM except maybe Olberman.
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 10:14 PM
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53. Bingo! People need to be informed about the PNAC takeover
and all details such as these EXACT SAME GUYS trying to pressure Clinton to attack Iraq back in 1998! GRRR! :mad:
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 10:20 PM
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54. Forwarded to Senator Kennedy and others. (nt)
Peace.


www.missionnotaccomplished.us
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 04:20 PM
Response to Reply #54
69. THANK YOU!
I hadn't gotten around to Kennedy yet so you saved me some time.

And if ANYONE is willing to bring this into the light of day, it's him!


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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 10:22 PM
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55. kepping kicked
:kick:
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neuvocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 10:25 PM
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56. Paul Wolfowitz was begging for an invasion for the last 10 years.
Too bad he got his wish.
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oxbow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 12:11 AM
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59. How to get someone famous to talk about this?
Maybe ask Kennedy or Boxer? I don't even know where to begin. Who would cover it.
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 01:18 AM
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60. All we can do
is send it EVERYWHERE in the hopes that someone, somewhere will pick up on it and be our voice. We don't know who or where that person may be,so we need to cover as many bases as possible.

And in the meantime, we need to stir up enough "Buzz" that our efforts, in and of themselves, becomes a story. Maybe the only way to get attention is to be a massive annoyance and relentlessly hound the hell out of our targets, demanding the answer to just one question to the point they acquiesce just to shut us up.

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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 09:38 AM
Response to Reply #59
61. I wish a politician would take this on the way Conyers did the DSM.
We need a stong political voice and something organized (like Conyer's web page) to spread the word.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 10:54 AM
Response to Reply #61
62. Recommended & Kicked!

:dem:
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 11:56 AM
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63. I just called my Senator and they laughed at me.
Not kidding.....Called Sen. Bill Nelson's office and they laughed me off the phone. Even when I gave them the web-sites to go to.
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 12:26 PM
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66. It sounds so inconceivable
that a RW cabal could stage such a successful coup, yet it happened and is still spreading its tentacles.

Maybe send them hardcopies of PNAC 101? It's very well-documented with mainstream and reputable sources that are hard to refute.


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specimenfred1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 02:00 PM
Response to Reply #63
67. Well, If You Used to be a Repub...
Get used to it.

How many times did they laugh at you before?

I don't take any repubs comments seriously, even if they agree with me. I think the agreement is just a set-up, because it always is.

Welcome to the real world though, being aware is so much better.
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64. Recommended
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 12:07 PM
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65. They lied ON PURPOSE. The lie was planned and executed! n/t
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 04:26 PM
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70. I Saw This Letter Way Back Then....
I emailed to everyone I knew, including Repukes!

I don't think anyone was listening, except the Dems!
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