From La Drudge: DEM CHAIR DEAN CALLS GOP 'WHITE CHRISTIAN PARTY'

[ruggerson]

no link yet -

'They all behave the same. They all look the same. It's pretty much a white Christian party'...

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Leave it to Sludge. "Caught" on tape, right. Sounds like Dean is telling the truth. They DO all behave the same and all look the same. White trailer trash fundie Stepford Bigots.

[jonnyblitz]

1. sounds about right to me. nt

[johnfunk]

30. La Drudge flashback: SID BLUMENTHAL BEAT HIS WIFE

Matt Drudge is an untrustworthy "source" for news, and has been caught passing off lies as news.

[liberaliraqvet26]

2. he ain' t lying

[Jacobin]

3. They've got the long knives out for Dr. Dean

He MUST be stopped or it will endanger the nice little pretend democracy we have now with republicans and faux democrats all on the take.

I have no doubt they will succeed in further marginalizing him in the media. I also have no doubt he will go down fighting. At this point, that is all I can ask of anyone fighting the junta

[Shoeempress]

4. Exactly how is that insulting when it is true?

[HockeyMom]

9. He could have added one to that

Southern White Christian Party. Apolgogies to fellow Du's from the South, but that is the truth also. Where is Bush's base? Where did he get the most votes?

[XemaSab]

22. I dunno

the shrub gets a lot of votes out west. Don't underestimate the republicans in California and the rest of the west. Hey, look at the gropernator...

[stickdog]

44. Southern California (nt)

[okieinpain]

18. what a hoot. so now are more dems are going to come out and

say dean is mean. what a fucking joke. If I hear another dem critize dean for this shit, I'm fucking out. I will vote nader or green, or libertarian or what the fuck else ends on the ballot that is not repug.

this is fucking ridiculous.

[Bleacher Creature]

5. Just ask yourself this one question.

How many "flashing sirens" did Sludge use for stories involving Terry McAuliffe??

Answer: Not many.

If these guys didn't see Dean as a threat, they wouldn't pay him this much attention. The fact that there is a "breaking story" about him every day means that he's got them running scared.

[progressivebydesign]

6. So that's considered an insult? It's called the truth. n/t

[Roland99]

7. True...but...this is gonna hurt the DNC this time.

[acmavm]

8. I think not only is that remark hilarious, it's also the drop dead truth.

If Howard Dean did say that I say give him a medal for honesty.

[okieinpain]

19. the sound clip can be found here.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object/article?f=/chronicle/archive/2005/06/07/MNdean07.TMP&o=1

[XemaSab]

24. He totally said it

and that's why I love Howard.... I'd rather have a politician who says too much than a politician who holds his tongue when it's time to speak up. (Not that we've ever seen any politicians who fit THAT description.)

[xultar]

10. .

:popcorn:

[Jacobin]

11. I have a feeling that people are going to be ready for some truth

before too long.

The utter and unrelenting mendacity of the administration and the media I think is beginning to wear thin.

Something is going to happen, something that appears small and insignificant at the time, that's going to topple these wiseacres and hopefully, people will remember that Dean called them on their bullshit

[Rex]

12. I'm sure Cheney would love to tell Dean to fuck off on the senate floor.

And that's okay to report on because Repuke behavior is judged differently than Dem behavior. :eyes:

[XemaSab]

25. I'm sure Cheney has a voodoo doll

of Dean down in his dungeon room where he invokes Satan and kills chickens.

[FreedomAngel82]

31. And then he probably

invites Frist in to help him kill the kittens.

[XemaSab]

34. Frist is already there...

Can't invoke Satan without Frist there.

[Lex]

13. You can't belong to the Party of Hate and be a real Christian.

Those people who vote R and think they are actually Christians need to go back and educate themselves about Christ.

IMHO.

[Bluerthanblue]

17. very good point- 'white- religious bibliocrites'

would be a more accurate and sad truth-

'I never knew you'-
Jesus Christ

[FreedomAngel82]

32. Hear hear

I don't remember Jesus killing people or beating people for who they are (as in LGBT) or denying people civil rights.

[ruggerson]

14. Here's a link to the San Fran Chronicle article

which is I'm sure where Sludge scarfed it from:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2005/06/07/MNdean07.TMP

[Memekiller]

15. How Drudge has fallen...

How long has it been since Drudge had a scoop that didn't blow up in his face? I hope everyone goes and actually listens to what Dean says.

Bottom lien: He says Republicans are a monolithic party and we are a party of everybody.

Here, here.

[Douglas Carpenter]

16. San Francisco Chronicle Has the Story--Here is the link

:bounce:

Here is the link:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2005/06/07/MNdean07.TMP

Again the SF Chronicle is repeating the false claim about fund raising--

And here are the actual facts posted here on DU Archives(2 Jun 05) posted by stampy52:

A quick look at actual FEC reports shows that Dean has raised more money in an off year than any DNC Chair in history.
First Quarter of 2005 - $16.7 million
Q1/2004 - $28.7 million
Q1/2003 - $8.7 million
Q1/2002 - $11.8

And Dean is on pace to break the midyear fundraising of $23.7 in the first six months of 2001.



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Perhaps we could respond to the SF Chronicle writer--Here is the E-Mail Address for the author and political writer, Carla Marinucci

[e-mail] :kick:

[DenaliDemocrat]

20. Dean fucked up....

he should had prefaced it with "crazy, fundamentalist-Christian"

[faithnotgreed]

21. Christ does not hate. period.

these people are not Christians and ill never understand how we help perpetuate that tragic myth by calling them Christians

[Bluerthanblue]

27. agree, maybe the same

way we 'justify' calling America a democracy-? or calling the political groups party's- a "wake" a "funeral" but party?

[FreedomAngel82]

23. Of course

And anybody who doesn't tow the party lines is either booted out or attacked (as we saw on "Justice Sunday" with the moderate republicans). It's sad really.

[Deja Q]

26. They're not Christians in action, yet they say they are in word.

B+ for attempt Dean, but don't hand them any more white Christians. Their faith prevents them from thinking, which is most o the problem in the first place.

[OrlandoGator]

28. It's rather amusing that when a guy says the truth it's a BREAKING STORY

Shows how conditioned we've become to the bullshit.

[FreedomAngel82]

29. Oh and another thing

the GOP is mostly white. How many black people and asians and mexican's are in the party? He told the truth. Preach it brother! He is right. We are the people's party and have many people here. He's definitley telling the truth. Saying how the democrats are more welcoming of everybody while the republicans are bigots. And it's so true.

[ruggerson]

33. If you listen to the actual clip:

What Dean says is that the Republicans are representing pretty much ONE group of Americans while the Democrats represent a broad array of diverse Americans, with a far broader agenda.

Truer words were never spoken.

Rock on, Dr. Dean!

[the_spectator]

35. Here's the problem with this kind of statement for Democrats:

Look what happens when it's the other way around, when Republicans try to characterize the type of people that the Democrats are -- they say Democrats are the "liberal elite." That's smart. Most people know they're not in the "elite", and those who are tend to be overwhelmingly rich and therefore Republican, not "liberal." There's not really THAT many Ivy League professors / downtown artists / Hollywood actors out there. So people will react by thinking, yeah, those Others - those Democrats - that's not for me.

The real problem about saying the Republicans are the White Christians is not that it is somehow too harsh, or too truthful, or some kind of specter-of-the-KKK accusation. The real problem is that the U.S. population is still at 75% white (according to the 2000 census) and is 76% Christian.

So when a Democrat says this, most average people's reaction if anything will be, hey, that's me, I guess the Republicans must be my party. Chances are an American IS a white "Christian" - even if a non-serious, Christmas, Weddings and Funerals type of Christian.

Plus, the statement can't help with a lot of "non-political" average Democrats who are white, and can't help with a lot of serious Christian African-American Democrats.

The thing about democracy after all is about getting the MAJORITY of Joe Q. Public to vote for you.

[ruggerson]

37. Well, I'll give you this

he would have gotten even more mileage had he said: The Republican party pretty much has become the party for far rightwing, conservative, White Christian fundamentalists.

I agree with you that we need to marginalize them.

[Bluerthanblue]

43. this is gonna come across as

a really bigoted, angry sounding reply- but as one who WAS a fundie- white (with a black son) female, who DID vote republican in my insanity, Dean is RIGHT-ON when he says that the 'party' is white Christians- i'd also add what my 21yr old totally disillusioned oldest son would say- fat,white, rich, selfserving or else ignorant by CHOICE religious people-

The truth does hurt-

Saying nothing, hoping that 'good' will out, didn't work for Kerry- being polite, and 'diplomatic' doesn't get peoples attention anymore- and sad as it is, we have become a nation of people who want to be spoon fed by the media as to what is 'true'- 'good' or 'acceptable' and the media belongs to those who 'own it'-

And YES, there indeed ARE black repubs, and TRULY 'Christ'ian democrats- the difference is,( and prove me wrong please)!! Why is it that people can say the Democrats are a bunch of bleeding heart liberals, who have too much money, and want to tax and spend, and create 'big government'- when in reality, the democrats i see- vary from folks on welfare (as i was once) to the 'filthy rich' like Theresa H.Kerry- yet, she and John, don't resent the notion of giving some of thier incredible EXCESS- to others, while the supposedly 'moral' religious right- hold thier purse strings as tight as they would the zip cord on thier parachutte keeping them from hell?????
They don't live by FAITH- unless it is faith in the almighty dollar that they hold in thier hand-

Republicans who DO have a conscience, and who are NOT 'represented' by the vocal insane conservitive puppets choose to remain silent in the face of the lies and the murder being done with thier 'blessing'- pretending to not know, and smothering any 'hint' of the truth of exactly how BAD this government is????? they are every bit as guilty- ignorance isn't bliss, it's cowardace-

it hurts like hell to really look at this nation, and how messed up we are,- and to begin to entertain any HOPE of changing- but to 'pretend' all is well, and 'we' are good is to dig ourselves deeper into the pit we gotten ourselves into.

i'm so incredibly discouraged, and frustrated tonite-
please don't take this personally-

[stickdog]

45. So Dems can't tell the truth w/o alienating ignorant freeper xenophobes?

Is that really your argument?

Do you really think that Dems will ever convert the sort of white Christians who think diversity is a BAD thing? How? You think that these types of xenophobes don't already realize that the Repuke Party is filled with their kind while the Dem Party welcomes all sorts?

How do you propose we attract the bigot vote? Just lie low and cross our fingers, like we did for the 2002 election?

[killbotfactory]

36. millions of similarly dressed white christian republicans rally in protest

news at 11

[Bluebear]

38. Ooh cute pointy hats! n/t

[qanda]

39. I'm starting to believe that Dean suffers from

Chronic foot in mouth disease. His tongue cannot be that uncontrollable. Doctor heal thyself.

[Don Claybrook]

40. There's no illness to heal

Where did he misspeak?

[stickdog]

47. If you don't think Dean should be saying it, who should?

Do you want nobody in the Democratic Party telling it like it is, or just not Dean?

[RetroLounge]

48. Grow a spine and you'll recognize truth...

:eyes:

RL

[Geek_Girl]

41. I think this is a great strategy actually

The Dems are basically playing good cop bad cop. Dean gets to be the leftie radical while the rest say their distancing themselves meanwhile the media eats it up and Dean gets his rhetoric out there to the masses.

[Spectral]

42. So Dean gets to appeal to the party base, while the actual candidates

appeal to the middle?

[stickdog]

46. Exactly. Since when has serving up red meat to the base hurt either party?

Repuke leaders say all sorts of insulting and downright scary things every day, and they control all three branches of federal government.

[Rob H.]

49. "white fundagelical nutjob party" would've been more accurate

I'm not Christian myself, but the Christians I know who haven't drunk Bush's Kool-Aid are appalled at what he's done (and continues to do) while claiming to be Christian.