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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 07:36 PM
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Supreme Court Rules "Against" Medical Marijuana Use in all States
Supreme Court Rules Against Medical Marijuana Use *

The Supreme Court ruled Monday that the federal government can prosecute the sick for the medical use of marijuana, even in states where it is legal. In a 6-3 ruling, the court agreed with the Bush administration that the regulation of controlled substances, including marijuana, is the province of Congress without exception.

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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 07:37 PM
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1. Does Marinol Work?
Someone I know (not on DU) mentioned it. Anyone know anything about it?
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FizzFuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 07:48 PM
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4. I have heard repeatedly that Marinol is a very poor substitute
Its THC only, frome what I understand, whereas actual marijuana contains a variety of cannabinoids that provide the therapeutic effects.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 08:06 PM
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7. Check here:
Edited on Tue Jun-07-05 08:06 PM by AuntiBush
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 08:03 PM
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5. It hit "all states." Now, feds can take "anyone" down, regardless.
And Bush & Co said they'd not be stepping into state rights.

Bull-$hit!
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OrlandoGator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 07:38 PM
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2. Yeah, I heard something about this somewhere.
Maybe it was here, I don't know.
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MsConduct Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 07:43 PM
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3. When will they get that if they legalized the damned stuff
and taxed it, the National debt would disappear very quickly???:wow:
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 08:04 PM
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6. It's as of NOW. Fed's can and will take ya out, regardless of the state.
California is one of them. There are a number of other states, including Maryland affected by this.
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MsConduct Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 08:10 PM
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8. It's been put on hold in Oregon too. Heaven forbid people have
the choice of using something natural. Cuts into the big profits for 'the dub's' drug company cronies. We are screwed, fer sure.
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Dragonfly Donating Member (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 08:41 PM
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9. This ruling has really opened the floodgates to
serious national discussion. Now, if/when the DEA moves to arrest Ms. Raich or Ms. Monson for using the sacred herb to stay alive, the drug czar (Walters) will have a heap o' public splainin' to do.

I think that the current legal approach should have more to do with framing this as a combo humanitarian/compassionate/common sense issue than a state's rights matter.

Also agree with a poster somewhere out in DU Land who saw the head/heart space one attains with judicious, mindful usage as being a formidable threat to the propaganda mills. (See the movie "They Live")
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 08:48 PM
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10. Wrong
The court did not rule against MM, it ruled that the feds have the right to pass laws that over ride state laws. Meaning, for instance, that if a state passed a law declaring women could not drive cars, the feds could pass a law declaring that women's rights to drive could not be taken away.

The ruling was constitutionally correct. The law congress passed against MM is constitutional. However, one supreme noted that he thought the MM law should be revisited in congress. These 6 were not activist judges who would vote for their own personal feelings, but do attempt to limit themselves to the constitution.

It has been noted elswhere on this board, that the pukes would like nothing better than to be able to allow individual states to pass laws that surpass federal law. Ya know, laws like abortion, and civil rights.

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WillowTree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 11:15 PM
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11. Exactly right.
Edited on Tue Jun-07-05 11:16 PM by WillowTree
I just read the SCOTUS opinion and it does not make any ruling for or against the medicinal use of marijuana. Citing a 1942 SCOTUS ruling in the case of Wickard vs. Filburn, yesterday's ruling dealt with whether or not Congress, and not the individual states, has the constitutional authority to regulate in this instance. My best friend suffers terribly with MS and could get significant relief from MJ and we've been hoping and praying for legalization for medical purposes in Illinois, so I really wanted to disagree with this ruling. But after reading it and the background info and the Supremes' rationale, it was the right decision based on the Constitution and long-standing case law. Dammit!

Here's the underlying problem as close as I can tell: Marijuana is regulated under the Comprehensive Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Act of 1970 which was enacted in order to consolidate and more or less standardize the plethora of drug laws on the books at the time. Under this act, all controlled substances were categorized into five classifications based on "their accepted medical uses, the potential for abuse, and their psychological and physical effects on the body........... Schedule I drugs are categorized as such because of their high potential for abuse, lack of any accepted medical use, and absence of any accepted safety for use in medically supervised treatment." Because of its addictive properties and the fact that, when the act was written, there was no medically accepted use for marijuana at the time, it was (correctly at that point in time) classified as a Schedule I substance. "By classifying marijuana as a Schedule I drug, as opposed to listing it on a lesser schedule, the manufacture, distribution, or possession of marijuana became a criminal offense, with the sole exception being use of the drug as part of a Food and Drug Administration pre-approved research study."

So what needs to happen is, now that there is substantial evidence of medicinal benefit from controlled use of marijuana to persons suffering with certain kinds of diseases, it needs to be re-classified so that it can be legally prescribed. But there's a catch. A big one.

The Controlled Substances Act gives authority to periodically amend the schedules to the Attorney General (after his or her consultation with the Department of Health & Human Services. We can assume that getting AG Gonzalez to roll over on this isn't going to be easy, but the fact is that awareness of the medicinal uses of marijuana has been developing for ten years or more and Janet Reno didn't do it, either. My take on it is that attorneys and those in law enforcement in general are loathe to grant any legal status to the use of marijuana at all. The whole "slippery slope" thing yadda, yadda, yadda. (And truthfully, medical legalization might eventually lead to general legalization at some point, but for right now, my primary concern is the medical.)

SO, I think the best hope at this juncture is for everyone to put steady pressure on our senators, congresspersons and our governors of both parties for them, in turn, to pressure the Administration, and the next, and the one after that, if necessary, to get marijuana re-classified to at least Schedule II status. And I don't think, if it's approached properly and non-confrontationally as an obvious issue of compassion, I don't think that the roadblocks are insurmountable, conceivably even before the Bush Administration ends. Remember, Gonzales takes his marching orders from the President (and likely Rove) and it would make excellent politics for them to be able to say that Compassionate Use was achieved during their administration.

And, bottom line, I don't give a damn who gets credit for doing it, so long as it gets done at the earliest possible date.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 11:32 PM
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12. Thanks, I did not know that.
Schedule II then, eh? I can live with that. So could a whole lot of suffering people too. Be nice to actually see some compassionate conservatism for once.
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