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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 05:29 AM
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2 Men Held in Links to Terror
June 8, 2005 latimes.com :

2 Men Held in Links to Terror
FBI arrests father and son shortly after the younger man returns from overseas, where he allegedly trained at an Al Qaeda camp.


http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-arrest8jun08,0,6557121.story?coll=la-home-headlines

By Greg Krikorian and Rone Tempest, Times Staff Writers


LODI, Calif.
— FBI agents have arrested a man and his father after the son allegedly admitted attending Al Qaeda training camps in Pakistan that taught participants "how to kill Americans," federal authorities said Tuesday.

In a case that was still unfolding, officials confirmed that Hamid Hayat, 23, and his father, Umer, 47, were taken into custody Sunday. Authorities said late Tuesday that they were still trying to determine whether the arrests represented the discovery of a small network of Al Qaeda sympathizers operating in the agricultural town of Lodi, 40 miles south of Sacramento.


The arrests came days after the younger man was discovered aboard a San Francisco-bound plane even though his name appeared on a "No Fly" list of suspected extremists. "

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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 05:33 AM
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1. We Americans must all look alike, so it must be easy to pellet us down.
:crazy:

I mean, we look like most every other human on this sad planet.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 08:12 AM
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2. Paul Craig Roberts has this to say about homeland security in another case
of two other men arrested for being "terrorists" according to the FBI sting operation...perhaps this article might shed some light on what
happened to these two other men that you are posting about.

"The U.S. has a vast and very expensive Homeland Security bureaucracy with nothing to do. There hasn't been a terrorist attack in America since 2001. There has been a vast quantity of terror alerts, the purpose of which was to scare Americans into supporting an unnecessary and illegal aggressive attack on Iraq.

As very few, if any, real terrorists have turned up, the FBI has resorted to creating terrorists by soliciting Muslim-Americans and appealing to them with schemes to aid "jihadists." Recently, two American citizens were caught in a FBI sting. One, an Ivy League-educated physician, is charged with agreeing to provide medical care to wounded holy warriors in Saudi Arabia. The other, a famous jazz musician, is charged with agreeing to train jihadists in martial arts.

According to the Washington Times of June 1, the FBI began its sting in 2003, so it took two years of work and cajoling to manufacture the case against these two Americans.

What the FBI has done to Dr. R.A. Sabir and Tarik Shah was once known as entrapment. Judges would throw out entrapment cases, because crime was believed to require intent. If the intent was given to the accused by the police through enticement or threats, it was not regarded as criminal intent on the accused person's part.


(link to the rest of the article):

http://www.antiwar.com/roberts/?articleid=6237


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