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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 12:45 PM
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BALD-FACED LIES in Bush and Blair's DSM answer yesterday.
Q Thank you, sir. On Iraq, the so-called Downing Street memo from July 2002 says intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy of removing Saddam through military action. Is this an accurate reflection of what happened? Could both of you respond?

PRIME MINISTER BLAIR: Well, I can respond to that very easily. No, the facts were not being fixed in any shape or form at all.

LIE! We KNOW you and Bush ignored caveats and depicted things as unquestionable that we KNOW were highly questionable if not outright proven false. Their is a multitude of evidence in your's and Bush's statements, and what we now know you knew, to prove that "facts WERE fixed".

And let me remind you that that memorandum was written before we then went to the United Nations. Now, no one knows more intimately the discussions that we were conducting as two countries at the time than me. And the fact is we decided to go to the United Nations and went through that process, which resulted in the November 2002 United Nations resolution, to give a final chance to Saddam Hussein to comply with international law. He didn't do so.

LIE! He did do so.

And that was the reason why we had to take military action.

But all the way through that period of time, we were trying to look for a way of managing to resolve this without conflict.

LIE! According to the minutes, anyway.

As it happened, we weren't able to do that because -- as I think was very clear -- there was no way that Saddam Hussein was ever going to change the way that he worked, or the way that he acted.

LIE! He let the inspectors in and they were well on their way to proving that he WAS in fact complying, and they HAD already concluded that several of your assertions were false.

PRESIDENT BUSH: Well, I -- you know, I read kind of the characterizations of the memo, particularly when they dropped it out in the middle of his race. I'm not sure who "they dropped it out" is, but -- I'm not suggesting that you all dropped it out there. (Laughter.) And somebody said, well, you know, we had made up our mind to go to use military force to deal with Saddam. There's nothing farther from the truth.

LIE! According to the minutes, anyway.

My conversation with the Prime Minister was, how could we do this peacefully, what could we do. And this meeting, evidently, that took place in London happened before we even went to the United Nations -- or I went to the United Nations. And so it's -- look, both us of didn't want to use our military. Nobody wants to commit military into combat. It's the last option. The consequences of committing the military are -- are very difficult. The hardest things I do as the President is to try to comfort families who've lost a loved one in combat. It's the last option that the President must have -- and it's the last option I know my friend had, as well.

And so we worked hard to see if we could figure out how to do this peacefully, take a -- put a united front up to Saddam Hussein, and say, the world speaks, and he ignored the world.

LIE! Again, he complied with Resolution 1441.

Remember, 1441 passed the Security Council unanimously. He made the decision.

LIE! Again, the decision he made was to COMPLY with Resolution 1441. The only "decision" that was made was by you, giving Saddam an ultimatum to produce his WMDs or face invasion... WMDs which we know know did not exist.

And the world is better off without Saddam Hussein in power.

HIGHLY QUESTIONABLE... especially given what is going on in Iraq now and what we know about the lack of a WMD threat before the war.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 12:58 PM
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1. Well, of course they lied. Why would they start telling the truth now?
Imagine this:

REPORTER: President Bush, how do you explain the comment in the Downing Street Minutes that says your administration fixed the facts around the policy, and that you'd planned to go to war with Iraq as early as the summer of 2002?

BUSH: Heh, heh, heh. I guess we're busted. Yeah, we were always gonna do Saddam. All that crap with the weapons inspectors and sendin' Colin to talk about nukes and tellin' you suckers that Saddam did 9/11 was just a smokescreen so all you dumbasses would let me wrap myself in the flag and prove my 'nads are bigger than my daddy's. We sure fooled ya, didn't we?
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 12:59 PM
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2. Can't let the DSM get buried
I wish someone in the MSM would pick this up:

"The Vice President dropped by a Senate Republican policy lunch soon after his 10-day tour of the Middle East ...Before he spoke, he said no one should repeat what he said. Then he gave them some surprising news. The question was no longer if the U.S. would attack Iraq, he said. The only question was when."
Time Magazine
May 5, 2002

Confirms what everyone knows (anyone that cares)
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 01:00 PM
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3. resolution 1441
did not give him permission to invade.
is it possible the press does not understand?
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 01:09 PM
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4. NO. The *corp media
is COMPLICIT in this horrendous debacle.

DOWNING STREET MINUTES - OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT MINUTES OF AN OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT MEETING - distributed to U.K. EYES ONLY in the form of a memorandum...


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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 01:10 PM
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5. Great breakdown
nominated
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