Things don't change much, do they.

[LittleClarkie]

Our library just recently moved to nicer digs, and one of the things they added in the move was a display of old veteran memorabilia from past wars and such.

I was just idley looking at some of the old guns from WWII and the leaflets they used to drop on the Vietnamese to convince them that we were the good guys, when I noticed a clipping.

"We support the right of dissent, but thank God somebody has the guts to defend that right!

Support the president and our soldiers in Vietnam"

It just struck me that the Vietnam rhetoric was almost exactly the same while it was going on. I was talking to the volunteer who was watching over the display, and he said it seemed to him as well as if it were exactly the same. He figured we were about a year or so away from the same kind of protests.

And I can just picture, 20 years from now, a bunch of Iraqi veterans shouting "We coulda won!"

[Lucky Luciano]

1. Of course we can win...

...but it would require that we look the other way when genocide rears it ugly head.

[JohnnyRingo]

2. One thing that has changed....

...is history.
The right wing bomb nuts have made considerable inroads on rewriting the public opinion polls of the era to make Vietnam a wildly popular war, with victory narrowly snatched from our grasp by the likes of Jane Fonda, John Kerry, a small cadre of hippies.

The reality was a nearly 75% disapproval rating for that conflict by 1972.

Seldom is it pointed out that the much theatened "domino effect" of Communism never came to fruition after our retreat from the area.

circa 1970 anti-war poster:

[Hissyspit]

4. If you can expand a little on this, you should make this post a separate

thread.

[Mythsaje]

3. And

"I started jumping up and down and yelling 'Kill! Kill! Kill!
and the recruiter started jumping up and down yelling 'Kill! Kill! Kill! with me."

Or something like that.

Iraq is just showing us the truth about history and our failure to learn from it.

[LittleClarkie]

6. From memory

"I said, "Shrink, I wanna kill. I mean, I mean I wanna kill. I wanna see blood and guts and veins in my teeth. Eat dead burnt bodies. Kill, kill, kill, kill!" And then we was both jumping up and down yelling, "Kill, kill, kill, kill!" And then he came over, pinned a medal on me and said, "You're our boy." Wasn't feelin' too good about it."

[Mythsaje]

8. Sounds more like it.

I was going from memory as well. It's probably been fifteen years or more since I heard it.

This does feel a little like a re-run, doesn't it?

[bluestateguy]

5. Just watch

When the US loses over there and or ends up with 7000 dead troops somehow it will all be the fault of the "liberals".

[ngGale]

7. It's becoming exactly the same but...

the price is even higher this time for me. Maybe because we who remember are faced with the reality every day, instead of the propaganda. We know how it's going to end and who they will blame for their mistakes. We already know the soldiers will get little or no help. Very sad!