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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 11:35 AM
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CNN Stuns U.S. With Actual News

http://www.cjrdaily.org/archives/001570.asp


Last week, during CNN's 25th anniversary celebration, CJR Daily took the network to task for shortchanging international news. As we noted then, whereas in 1994 CNN dedicated two hours of its weekday schedule to international news, the CNN of 2005 to date was lucky to feature two hours of foreign news in a week.

At least until today, when that all changed.

Today the network began simulcasting on its US network its meaty news program "Your World Today" that airs regularly on CNN International.

CJR Daily tuned in at 11:45 a.m. EST. Right away we caught a promo for "Your World Today" -- a promo that, as it turns out, actually contained more hard news than the five minutes of "CNN Live Today" that followed. (That was pretty easy to do, given that the "CNN Live Today" segment focused on how to keep your pet from shitting all over the hotel room once you leave the premises. Answer: Put the little bugger in a crate.).

But enough with the ridiculous, and on to the sublime.

It speaks to the state of cable news that we sat in shock and awe for the better part of an hour, as anchors Zain Verjee and Jim Clancy did nothing more than deliver the news like it's supposed to be done.

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Stunned by 15 straight minutes of actual news, we heard an equally incredulous CJR colleague in the background quip, "It's weird to be watching news." And indeed it was.
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I'm waiting for the good old days when the rule was that if one political party got air time, an equal amount of time had to be given to the other parties. (well, I'm not holding my breath)
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DemNoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 11:37 AM
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1. Oh just great
How the hell am I supposed to keep up with all the missing white girls now?

I sure hope this isn't a trend.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 12:08 PM
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11. Yes, and this better not cut into Michael Jackson time.
We just don't hear enough about that.
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 01:03 PM
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16. Someone asked me about MJ and I turned it into a DSM moment..
I said, "I've heard more than I want to hear about Michael Jackson and I stopped listening months ago. But I do think Bush is going to get impeached."

It lead to the DSM and Conyers letter and the cause for impeachment due to being led into the war on Iraq on a lie.

Got back how sad it was and how 1,600 and more every day dead over this war.

I left the restuarant with two ladies telling me that I had made their day.

It was a golden moment.

Eat out a lot and make new friends for DU.
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Im with Rosey Donating Member (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 04:48 PM
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19. BRAVO!
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 01:56 PM
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18. LOL! You mean, no more "Towel-Headed Run-Away Brides?"
No more Jackson trial?
No more Florida 3-Ring Circus stuff...?

You mean, 15 whole minutes of REAL NEWS?

Naw... But boy, one could blink and miss 15 minutes while channel surfing.

CNN will have to do better then that if I ever watch them again. Now, if they do an hour on the "Downing Street Minutes" with full Democrat access "AND" STOP with all the Ultra-Neo-Conservative agenda crap and give Democrats equal time, then I'll reconsider.

Till then: No CNN, No MSNBC or ABC, CBS, NBC etc.

C-SPAN, LinkTV, Satellite Radio (Air America & Liberal Radio) will do it for me. ;)
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 11:40 AM
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2. ...........
:eyes:
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alarcojon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 11:41 AM
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3. There must be ratings to earn and money to be made
Edited on Thu Jun-09-05 11:41 AM by alarcoeg
off of people who would like to see some real news every once in a while. Maybe, if the show gets ratings, it WILL start a very welcome trend in the MSM.
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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 12:15 PM
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13. EXACTLY.. the market for the truth is ripe! they know it.. send them ..
thank you email for the good things they do! remind them you dont watch news because its not real news... its infotainment, and if they show real news, you'll gladly tune in and watch the ads! Of course you can also remind them you have been know to organize boycotts against media advertisers :)

keep up the pressure!
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 11:41 AM
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4. I was really surprised to see them have Feingold on
after the pretzledents speach in Ohio today. I figured they'd put a Rw pundit on but they moved on to Howard Dean. I don't know whats up, but I don't trust them.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 11:41 AM
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5. Nice! They seem to be holding that same newsy style today
perhaps they actualy listened?

perhaps their numbers were sinking rapidly and they decided to do something abvout it?

In any event, I hope it holds.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 11:44 AM
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6. "It's weird to be watching news." WTF?
:banghead:
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 11:53 AM
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9. That is too funny...but definitely weird.
I haven't "seen" any news on TV in years, so it would be weird for me too. I have hazy memories of Bernie Shaw, though...
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 12:59 PM
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15. CNN had uppity Hillary on too - my son called and told me.
Got him off of Faux News, so he turned to CNN, just in time to see the beginning of the change back to REAL fair and balanced reporting.... ok baby steps, but hey, it's better than nada.
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kittenpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 11:44 AM
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7. I was happy to see this too and on a shallow note,
Edited on Thu Jun-09-05 12:18 PM by kittenpants
does anyone else find Zain incredibly attractive in a competent, journalistic way (and her voice reminds me of Amanpour).
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 11:50 AM
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8. Give me a break! I've seen this so-called "international" show...
It's bullcrap deception - it's still a Neo-Con biased propaganda forum.

Hell, to discuss Gitmo they had James Carafano from the Heritage Foundation defending the Bush Crime Family.

They might as well have asked a member of the Nazi Party to make an appearance defending the Holocaust.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 11:59 AM
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10. Today's segment interviewed an Iraqi family and how the
war has affected them.

I thought it was well done and a story that needs to be told.

It is the first story I've seen on mainstream TV that gave the Iraqi point of view.

I wrote CNN and thanked them.
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 01:48 PM
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17. Posts like these..
..are what's wrong with DU. Stop being so shrill.
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hnsez Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 12:10 PM
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12. meh, I still will only Tivo BBC
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 12:56 PM
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14. Way to go! Ted Turn it Around Turner!!!
From Schoenfeld's disgraceful comments to some real news.... Great, fantastically great job Ted! (There was a thread here recently that said Ted was going to do this.)

Schoenfeld's comments:

http://www.newshounds.us/2005/05/24/reese_schonfeld_cofounder_of_cnn_says_the_public_does_not_have_a_right_to_know.php


May 24, 2005Reese Schonfeld, Co-founder of CNN, Says "The Public Does Not Have a Right to Know"
Last week on May 16th, during an appearance on The Big Story with John Gibson, CNN co-founder Reese Schonfeld made some very scary statements about the roles of the media and the Pentagon in time of war. The two men were discussing the Newsweek Koran story. Here's my transcript of part of that interview:

GIBSON: You're saying that editors should, and in fact, do make calculations about whether people are going to live or die because of the revelations they're about to make and that this was one in which editors should have foreseen just what happened.

SCHONFELD: Sure. What, what difference ... Absolutely. Everyone knows or should know, if they know anything about the Arab world or the Muslim world, how holy the bible is - their Koran - is to them and how inflammatory a statement that we had desecrated it, flushed it down the toilet or whatever would be in that world and someone should have said: Well, what real difference does it make if we report that or don't report that. And should never have reported it. But if you were even gonna consider reporting it, well, I don't, I don't even - I wouldn't even consider reporting it. I would have sat there in the chair and said "No, this doesn't go in the story." Period.

GIBSON: OK, but would you have - by that same reasoning would you have not reported Abu Ghraib if somebody had brought you those pictures.

SCHONFELD: Abu Ghraib is the greatest foul up of all time. Those pictures were on the internet. The problem is not that we were - we - I only wish the Pentagon could have been able to deny that story, to be able to li - that's the right of the Pentagon to lie, when it is in the country's best interest to lie, you do lie. And when I made that statement in my book, an undersecretary - well - at Defense told me I don't have it quite right, the - uh - Rumsfeld, the Secretary can never lie but any, anybody under him can, that you have to do it when it's in the public, in the government interest.



COMMENT

From Newseum on Nazi Censorship:

"The state must not ... let itself be confused by the drivel about so-called freedom of the press .. it must make sure of this instrument of popular education and place it in the service of the state." - Adolf Hitler in Mein Kampf

Press freedom begins to disappear in Germany in 1932, the year before Adolf Hitler takes power. By 1933, the Nazis decree the virtual end of a free press. The government turns editors and journalists into servants of the state. Bureaucrats decide what may be published. Publishers can't hire or fire journalists. Only the government can.

My letter to the Washington Post:

I am outraged at Reese Schonfeld, Co-founder of CNN, who said on National TV that the roles of the media and the Pentagon in time of war is to lie. How original for a Democratic Nation to emulate a senseless dictatorship.

The Washington Post, more than many mainstream media outlets has been reporting real news. I'm sure you understand how CNN slaps the Fourth Estate in the face by advocating lying for the government.

Press responsibility in wartime is to not reveal sensitive information about troop movements and such. If our government would have listened to the people when we SCREAMED not to appoint Gonzales because of the Torture Memo and what it did to our reputation as a nation, we might have been able to repair some of the damage.
Those who seeks to continue murder and torture in the name of WE the PEOPLE, had better start packing their bags for 2006 and 2008 right now.

In this country we respect Truth and know our responsibility to freedom comes with a price. It isn't just the soldiers who have laid down their life blood for Democracy in Iraq. Since the war began over 40 reporters have died in the line of duty in Iraq and more than a dozen media assistants were killed as well. Is THIS is the thanks THEY get for THEIR sacrifice? Shame on CNN and their lack of humanity, much less their unpatriotic attitude.

Lying for the government is not a national VALUE. A puppet press is useless to the causes of Freedom and Justice. Real journalists know what the Nieman Reports are.

Newsweek reported old news. Three year old news. What made it such a travesty of justice was that it had been suppressed that long. Newsweek doesn’t need to retract 17 deaths; their blood is on the hands of the US Government who allowed the desecration.

The American People have a right to know what is being done in OUR NAME, here and around the world. It is OUR JOB to hold our leaders accountable and the only way we can do that is if the press has our back.

Do you?





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