so did the Republicans overthrow the gov. when they illegally adjourned a

[sam sarrha]

rule 11 session to discuss the continuance of the Patriot Act.. and deny statements under oath, turn off microphones in mid sentence of Congressmen.. and demand the court reporters to stop taking down the statements being made..... with a motion/a second/a vote...

was the government of the United States overthrown today..??

the rule 11 session was called because the minority was denied any voice in the regular session on the subject of the Patriot Act becoming permanent law.. justifying the Rule 11 session.

:shrug:

[GetTheRightVote]

1. the US govt was screwed over today, it is time to fight back at these

treasonous actions on the part of some Republicans.
It is treason on their parts.

:kick:

[KittyWampus]

20. I'm Having A Really Hard Time Processing This. Sensenbrenner Also

said Dems no longer have use of the room, IIRC.

[dave502d]

31. Thank you for this post. What is wrong with these people?n/t

[FreedomAngel82]

38. I agree

[rzemanfl]

2. When somebody decides to do something about these Nazis

let me know.

[dogday]

3. Democracy was Silenced Today

No doubt Democracy was killed. This is such a reflection on this administration.

[Richard Steele]

4. I think you nailed it.

Looks like we are now just another Banana Republic, where the ruling Junta makes little pretense of 'rule of law'.

And throws TANTRUMS when the the pretense doesn't go their way.

[Roxy66]

5. I would say..since weve never seen what it would be like...YES

O.K. we've seen things on T.V. from other countries, but I think we just saw the actual tipping point of an Over-Thrown GOVERNMENT.
So what next? What do we do Next? Hit the streets?

Debbie Wasserman Schultz just said on Randi's show , that the Dems have been banned from some rooms!!!! OMFG!!!

[FreedomAngel82]

40. Oh God

That's shit! Oh and Wasserman-Shultz kicks ass.

[Rex]

6. No, they ovethrew the gov. on Dec 12, 2000.

This is just an example of what happens when you FUCK UP checks & balances. I ASSURE you that the rest of the world will write in their history of America, that we became a fascist nation under Reagan and it manifested totally under our illegal pResident Boosh.

[DoYouEverWonder]

7. The Radical Repugs are out of control

For a party that ownes all three branches of government, you would think they would be having a wonderful time?

[acmejack]

9. I wouldn't think they would be so pissed off about it!

Perhaps they're being persecuted by godless liberals...

[sam sarrha]

8. I want to see some Rightious ASS KICKING the next time they try that !!

who do you think will Kick FASCIST Butt First... offer odds, im taking bets..!!! :woohoo: :kick:

[Gabi Hayes]

11. like how? what can be done?

I'd like for something to happen, but the dems, as well as being feckless, are also powerless

the only recourse seems to be the media, but I'm betting this won't get any coverage at all tonight, and by Monday, like the DSM, it'll be "old news," and unworthy of any coverage

unless, of course, the dems raise holy hell over this giant step toward dictatorship

[converted_democrat]

13. The revolution will not be telivised.............

[Media_Lies_Daily]

19. But, it WAS televised....in December 2000. The problem is that...

...the vast majority of Americans are still living in the past.

[converted_democrat]

35. That is not the revolution I was referring to.

[6000eliot]

21. Can one buy those Bosch figurines?

[converted_democrat]

10. Nope, if anything we showed our mettle.

We carried on despite of the antics. O\T, but I really want to say this. I believe in God, and I don't believe for a second that he will let "evil" prevail. Doing wrong is one thing, doing wrong while claiming to be doing "God's will" is another. These people stand for exactly the opposite of the teachings of Jesus. I have faith that God will not let this continue in his name. Their end is nye. Look at the war in Iraq, it really is the David and Goliath story of our time.

[KittyWampus]

22. Thank You For Posting This. It's Really Hard Comprehending This

[deadparrot]

12. Does this scare anyone else?

It just keeps getting worse and worse. They're getting more and more belligerent with each passing day.

[sam sarrha]

14. "Beligerant Nationalism" is one of the BIG definations of Fascism

[merbex]

36. Yes it scares me;if the Repugs see that Sensebrenner can do

this with no consequences it will just embolden them

What he did was a dangerous development in a dangerous time

[LoZoccolo]

15. I'd like to know more about rule 11.

Is it part of the constitution?

[LaReservaPr]

16. I think this is the rule

Rule XI. Procedures of Committees and Unfinished Business

http://clerk.house.gov/legisAct/legisProc/rules/index.html

[slaveplanet]

32. are these rules enforceble by Law?

If the answer is yes...wouldn't anyone that broke them be in danger of arrest?

[DeepModem Mom]

17. Don't know but I had a scary feeling reading this in LBN -- the Right...

has endangered our system with its extremism. I feel like we are on thin ice.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

18. Where were you during the month of December 2000?...

...I am always TOTALLY amazed at the number of people on THIS board that still do not understand what happened when the Supreme Court chose Herr Busch as the first American Dictator.

[sam sarrha]

23. That is 'DickTatter'...Actually, Jeff's nickname for him...an endearment..

:rofl:

[Douglas Carpenter]

24. Here is James Sensenbrenner's Contact Info

Brookfield Office
120 Bishops Way, Room 154
Brookfield, WI 53005-6294
Telephone: [phone]

Outside the Milwaukee Metro calling area, call toll-free HOTLINE number: 1-800-242-1119.

Washington, D.C. Office

2449 Rayburn House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515-4905
Telephone: [phone]

E-mail address is [e-mail] .

[rateyes]

25. Sensenbrenner seems to me like

a very insecure individual who got his feathers ruffled because he had to come chair a meeting that he didn't call. It pissed him off because his AUTHORITY was questioned. When are Repugs going to grow up and act like adults? If he had given Dems the right to ask questions in the first place, he wouldn't have had this crap on his hands, and now in his mouth.

BTW, this is post #100 for me. Do I get promoted to PFC or something in DU?

[OKJackson]

26. WILL YOU ALL CALM DOWN FOR A MOMENT??

Conyers is a fighter, he had nothing to say. Why? Because he's planning his next move. The Repugnazis just fucked themselves up the ass with that move. Notice that the downing street memo has become a big item even though the Bushies and the traitor mainstream media have avoided it?

Relax, keep pressing.

That this happened is proof that they are weak and scared of getting completely torn down. They can't destroy the law, all they can do is be forced to make bigger and bigger temper tantrums until they break.

Also remember that Republicans are splitting from the ranks of the neo con traitors, the more shit like this happens the more of them will move and the more little punks like Biden will find themselves crawling back to the line of righteousness... or be simply forced to switch to the Repug part and be done with it.

We are in the process of winning, relax and keep pressing the attack.

[Darkhawk32]

27. Good post.

:thumbsup:

[KittyWampus]

28. Thanks, I'm Starting To Calm Down...

[Media_Lies_Daily]

29. "We are in the process of winning"?? Winning what, exactly?

[The Traveler]

34. Can't you feel the tide?

It really has turned, bud. It has just begun, really, but it has definitely turned. The Rethugs sense it ... expect more desperate measures from them. Their desperation is our opportunity.

[OKJackson]

41. Exactly!

You've hit the nail on the head, good on ya'

[jazzjunkysue]

43. I agree. Last ditch effort to get what they've planned, and then

the rats start jumping ship. The 7 moderates are the first to mutiny, and the rest are ready to follow.

This american fascism cannot be supported. Our values won't allow it. The money and soldiers are running out, and the msm is starting to report the news of it again.

They're losing control, and they know it.

[BattyDem]

33. Thank you ...

your post has lowered my blood pressure a bit. :-)

[OKJackson]

39. You're welcome

Stay focused on the goal, don't let their last minute desperation moves distract you.

We can unseat them, they're weak in the polls and have nothing to discuss. I mean really, "let's attack Hillary! Let's attack Dean!"

Um... you're the majority party, why don't you do something?

"Uh.... uh.... CLINTON!"

They're flailing in a sea full of sharks with gashes and missing limbs, just look at Delay, he's ten seconds away from being in a world of hurt and he's one of their top guys. Keep moving and they're finished.

[BagEnd]

30. The short answer is "no"

It's an <b>abuse</b> of power.... but it IS a power that they have. I'd have to see a trascript, but a motion to adjourn is always in order and they've got the votes.

The good news is that this is the kind of thing they ran on in '94. Such abuses were too common... and it cost us. Now perhaps, it can come full circle.

[Old and In the Way]

37. Bravo Commandante Sensenbrenne!

My hearty congratulations on silencing this pesky political concept called Democracy. Who knows better than you what Americans need to hear? I am sure that your Party will put the Patriot Act to good use, ferreting out all those Democrats who would tell the truth about what Bush Republicanism is doing to this country. As Presindente-for-Life Bush has reminded us on many occaisions, "my life would be easier if I were dictator". You are certainly doing your part in making this happen. You are an outstanding and loyal Party member who should be rewarded by those that demand a One Party State. Keeping our Patriot Act intact will assure that the spoils of this country can be controlled by the few who deserve these riches.

Let's get the Patriot Act III implemented as soon as possible…..you can make it a crime for anyone to be a member of the Democratic Party! We should start an aggressive program to get more prisons built now and strike while the iron's hot. We have done away with the charade of a free and fair election system, but there is still much work to do to assure a compliant population who will not ask questions of your directives. Perhaps a mandatory stint in Iraq for all Democratic Party members will allow our glorious war for oil to continue while reducing the number of those traitors who would work to impeach our Glorious Leader.

Again, thank you for finally showing your contempt for this failed 200 year experiment of democracy. I look forward to more overt actions to transform America into the United Banana Republican States of Bushistan.

Sincerely,

Old and In the Way

PS I assume you know that I am one of those subversive Democrats who will work to impeach you and the rest of the criminals who are destroying this country.

[Lars39]

42. Something worries me about his parting remarks....

He requested a list of the librarians that reported being asked info about library patrons.
From what I remember, according to the Patriot Act, the librarians
are not supposed to even acknowledge that they have been asked for information.

Are these librarians now in danger of jail time because of Sensebrenner?