We must stop referring to the Police Action in Iraq as a War

[Toots]

It is not in any way shape, form or fashion a War. We are not against a foreign nation or even uniformed troops. We are lording it over a defenseless nation with military troops but have no true enemy. This so called "War on Terror" is nothing more than police work throughout the world and all this talk about better to be fighting them over there then here at home is just plain BS. Those troops are not defending America. Hell they are not even defending Iraq. They are prancing around trying to intimidate the world and showing us to be fools. No one in this country truly feels we are at war. Why continue the lie.

[BlueEyedSon]

1. Not a "police action" either. It is an invasion, conquest, occupation....

and acquisition.

[NorCalDem]

2. Well said

[MASSAFRA]

3. I call it an invasion

[Pacifist Patriot]

4. I have always referred to it as the U.S. Invasion of Iraq.

[Frederik]

5. The correct term would be occupation

But I would say that Iraq qualifies as a war as well. The "war on terror" though is complete bullshit.

[lynch03]

6. I prefer, Bush's Fuck up.

[Frederik]

13. That's even more accurate.

[radar]

16. This was touched upon by BARTCOP today...

...Long, long ago, I urged the Democrats to call this "Bush's war," but they wanted to help him.
They wanted to give Bush cover for his nasty, little war - so now this is "America's failure,"
instead of "Bush's failure," and no doubt Clinton is the cause of all the trouble.

They're going to put the defeat on "blame America Democrats" and, of course,
our wimpy Democrats will apologize and "promise to do better next time, Mr Rove."

Poll Finds Dimmer View of Iraq Bush's War
http://www.bartcop.com/

* I sure can't argue with his logic - Dems have thus far been at fault for all the ills of the world that repubs can scream about. Might be a good idea to start putting titles on actions that leave no room for doubt who's running things.

[Ignoramus]

7. I usually say "aggression against Iraq"

[peacetalksforall]

8. It's an invasion, an imperialistic act in absense of a criminal

indictment as was the case with the first WTC bombing.

They couldn't bring a criminal case because they would be indicting themselves.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

9. The only important point is that we illegally invaded and currently....

...occupy what used to be another sovereign nation. Not even the NeoCons can pretend otherwise at this point in time.

The rest of it is pure semantics, IMHO. It doesn't matter what this accursed conflict is called. All I know is that tens of thousands of Iraqis have died, along with an official count of almost 1700 Americans.

And for what reason? None that can be substantiated.

[HawkerHurricane]

10. "War on Terror"

Does anyone remember (or read about) how, after the attack on Pearl Harbor, FDR asked Congress to declare war on carrier air strikes? Or war on surprise attacks? Or war on militarism?
No, I distinctly remember him asking for a war on JAPAN. Declaring war on terror makes as much sense as declaring war on bayonet charges; you can't declare war on a tactic.

[Cleita]

11. Better that we call it the PNAC invasion of Iraq using

the USA military for their own nefarious purposes.

I believe our military is being held hostage by this entity and I wonder why the Pentagon doesn't refuse to play anymore.

[welshTerrier2]

12. the US made Iraq a giant toilet and hung an "Occupado" sign on the door ..

the US invaded Iraq and now we are occupiers ... it's not a war; it's an occupation ...

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

14. More like the utter failure of the military to do it's job.

Our glorious military is hardly "prancing". More like cowering in their heavily fortified bases and making occasional ineffective forays out to back up the even more ineffective quislings and proclaim yet another victory over the hostile populace.

Their main effort now seems to try and escape the number of casualties to themselves that would alarm the American public.

If it weren't so tragic it would be almost laughable to hear the somber looking generals report how well it's all going. Sooner or later, the American people will catch on to the obvious. The world's "greatest military" is unable to control a wrecked and bankrupt 3rd world country with only what they say is a "few remnants" of the Baath Party and some imported guerillas to oppose them.

It reminds me of the "light at the end of the tunnel", and the absurd "body counts" (that showed that we had destroyed the whole NVA twice), of our other attempt at neo-colonialism.

[oblivious]

17. The problem is they're up against a "thinking enemy".

...like enemies didn't used to think or something :eyes:


Hagee: Adaptable Tactics Helping to Defeat 'Thinking Enemy'

WASHINGTON, June 8, 2005 – America's armed forces face a "thinking enemy" on the battlefield, and defeating it demands adaptable tactics and a fast application of lessons learned, the commandant of the Marine Corps said here today. "We're going against a smart enemy. That's really important to remember," Gen. Michael W. Hagee said during an interview with the Pentagon Channel.

..."Whenever you are going against a thinking enemy, you cannot always use one tactic, because he will respond to that," Hagee explained. "So we have to be able to change our techniques ... our tactics ... our training" to respond to this changing battlefield.

..."In order to be successful on today's battlefield, you have got to be smart," Hagee said. "We are up against a thinking enemy, and in order to outthink him, our individual Marines have to be smart."

http://www.dod.gov/news/Jun2005/20050608_1652.html

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

18. The trouble is that they are up against a hostile populace.

Tactics don't mean squat when they are unable/unwilling to look upon war as anything other than winning battles. This isn't about knocking off "the enemy" by killing lots of people in Iraq, or outshooting the guerillas, it's about having a whole region against them that's demanding change. The client governments of the middle east are getting more shaky by the day and the people are set to depose them and fling the Americans/Brits out and reclaim their territory from the neo-colonialists and the oil companies.

[radar]

19. Hehe

up against a thinking enemy, and in order to outthink him, our individual Marines have to be smart

*Reminded me of Carl Spackler...

"License to kill gophers by the government of the United Nations. Man, free to kill gophers at will. To kill, you must know your enemy, and in this case my enemy is a varmint. And a varmint will never quit - ever. They're like the Viet Cong - Varmint Cong. So you have to fall back on superior intelligence and superior firepower. And that's all she wrote. "

CaddyShack 1980
http://imdb.com/title/tt0080487/

[oblivious]

20. Excellent. He must have watched CaddyShack before writing his speech.

[slaveplanet]

15. way to strike while the iron's hot

Ive been calling it invasion since before the launch. Because that's what it is...