Was Conyers Point of Order after the gavel?

[Must_B_Free]

A POINT OF ORDER is made during floor proceedings to assert that the rules of procedure are being violated.

A point of order halts proceedings while the presiding officer rules on whether or not it is valid.

In the Senate, the chair's ruling may be appealed by any Senator. The Senate votes on the appeal and the chair has been frequently overturned.

In the House tradition, appeals are also possible, but rarely entered and almost never succeed.

http://www.c-span.org/guide/congress/glossary/pointord.htm

And wouldn't it have been up to Sensenbrenner to rule on whether or not it is valid?

[PDittie]

1. It doesn't matter

Hearings can only be adjourned by unanimous consent.

A rule which exists to prevent exactly the sort of bullshit Sensenbrenner pulled.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

2. So Sensenbrenner was in violation of House rules?

Doesn't that rate a reprimand, at the very least?

[PDittie]

6. Of course it does. Who's going to do so, though?

The Ethics Committee?:sarcasm:

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

12. Maybe the voters of his district

if they find out what he did and why it was so reprehensible.

[Just Me]

Both Conyers and Jackson-Lee asserted a Point of Order BEFORE

Sensenbrenner's gavel hit the desk. He just ignored them.

[LosinIt]

3. Can someone summarize what happened for me?

I've been on an 8th grade field trip to Gettysburg, PA and have been totally out of the loop.

[cornermouse]

5. I believe video is available at cspan or they may show it again

today? Pretty disgraceful.

Someone tried to track the main points. It can be found at

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3833270

[LosinIt]

11. thanks!

[Bozita]

14. video available at Randi Rhodes' website --- link

http://www.therandirhodesshow.com/index_weekend.php

[Renew Deal]

4. The point of order was after the gavel.

But they have to vote to adjourn. Sensenbrenner was in breach of order.

[Spazito]

13. Nadler's point of order was before the gavel was brought down

and Sensenbrenner refused to acknowledge it at all and just continued to unilaterally adjourn the hearing.

[peacetalksforall]

7. I think someone in the know should post the pre-agreement for the

hearing. Was there something agreed to that Dems disregarded?

Also, did S play dirty with announcements about starting times? Did he pull a fast one. Did they expect to have no Dems in the room and then close down, but Conyers was there and they couldn't? What was said to the Dems that they came into the room, got settled, and then left again - probably feeling safe. But they weren't safe from S.

The exit of S with Lungren holding the door, the smirks on all their faces is absolute proof that Republicans have juveniles leading them. Every Dem on that Committee is a no nonsense worker.

Dems have not been perfect in their decades long majority in the houses, but nothing they did could come close to this. Breaking rules of the U.S. House of Representatives, smirking for approval from his fellow smirkers, and the juvenile way he spoke to everyone of the guests and fellow representatives was the ultimate in arrested development and hate.

I award the MR. EIGHTH GRADE TANTRUM/TERRORIST/SMIRK and ABUSE AWARD to the Representative from WISCONSIN for the ultimate in vileness.

[quiet.american]

8. Purely rhetorical question

So, if Bush is such a man of moral certitude, why no rebuke from him to Sensenbrenner for this license for chaos in the Senate?

As I said, purely rhetorical question.

[warrior1]

9. I noticed that

Dan Lundgren of California was one of the republicans to stand be counted among the reps leaving these proceedings yesterday with senswhatshisname. Who where the others?

[RetroLounge]

10. Work to remove Sensenbrenner from office

Go here to help

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1846522

RL