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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 07:09 PM
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Anybody listening to BradBlog?
He's going to have a reporter on who's been involed in the election fraud. :bounce:
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 07:17 PM
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1. Bob Fritakis...
when Bob talks...people should listen.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 07:19 PM
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3. This is very good
Is this the guy who worked with Cobb??
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 07:20 PM
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5. Hey buddy...
How's Ballot? :loveya: :loveya: :loveya:
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 07:41 PM
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14. sleeping in my
lap
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 07:18 PM
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2. I'm listening!!!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 07:19 PM
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4. George Bush met with the
Edited on Sat Jun-11-05 07:20 PM by FreedomAngel82
Ohio state troopers yesterday and this was a way to steal the vote. So George Bush stole it! In Blackwell's office he had access to tabulators with his computer! In his press release from November 27th he brags about this transition.
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 07:20 PM
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6. Damn, Blackwell had access to the central tabulators, damn.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 07:23 PM
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7. Also
Edited on Sat Jun-11-05 07:24 PM by FreedomAngel82
Kerry's lawyer is working for one of the most republican law firms in the state!!! What the hell? The person who owns the law firm is related to Taft!
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 07:27 PM
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8. It only gets more and more outrageous, huh?
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 07:30 PM
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10. Simply amazing
They're trying to say the exit polls were wrong. They don't have these republican women. Suddenly these women got shy in republican counties. (ha) And you have this huge vote total. So you had to have these women sneak away from exit pollers. Only women and only in republican women and only in the afternoon. People who watched elections said to look for this. One thing you're trained to do is to look for contamindation of where the machine stopped counting or the main frame gets shut down.
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 07:34 PM
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11. With all the other problems going on in Ohio with Republican party,
we need to shout this shit from the roof-tops. People are pissed about the coin scandal. We could really start a ruckus if we tried.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 07:35 PM
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12. I think so too
I think the coin scandal is connected too.
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 07:40 PM
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13. Yea, the Ohio supreme court ruled on the fraud, and when Noe got in
trouble they all recused themselves from anything to do with Noe on trial, because of the donations that he had given them. Why didn't they recuse themselves from the Election Fraud cases? Yea, now I think I know why.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 07:42 PM
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15. Interesting
Isn't Noe involved in the coin scandal? I thought I saw his name. :shrug:
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 07:44 PM
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16. Noe IS the coin scandal.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 07:49 PM
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18. I thought so
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 07:28 PM
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9. Kerry knew there were irregularites
Edited on Sat Jun-11-05 07:30 PM by FreedomAngel82
When they were briefed and stole the Ohio votes Kerry remarked in New Mexico when they used the machine's it didn't matter how many were in the area. They lost everywhere the machine's were used. His wife refused to hacking the machine which is by Triad another republican firm. He talked to one of the woman appointed by Kerry and she was called by the Kerry attorney and the report was already written and she said "no" and caused some problems. What they're afraid of is the "f" word and there's a gentlement's agrement that you can talk about irregularities but you can't suggest that Karl Rove or the President itentionally stole an election. You can read "Bush's Brain" and read how Rove and the Bush family themself have done and that the Bush family doesn't know how to conduct an election without a CIA manual and they've been involved in stealing elections all over the world. They practice them routinely around third worlds and they're close to the CIA and they tested it in 2000 in Florida and great skills in 2004 in Ohio. The report is written and a moderate of rebellion in the people because it was pre-written. The gentlemen's agreemnt they don't want to admit it. The exit polling were 2/10th's off. The notion this would occur is impossible that Bush would get the vote.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 07:47 PM
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17. It all goes back to the Bush family
Edited on Sat Jun-11-05 07:48 PM by FreedomAngel82
He thinks it's all connected. I think so too. The Brothers Voinovich and the coin scandal. They busted out the bureau scandal. What the republicans have been doing is thinking big and stealing thousands of millions of dollars and they've used the term pike in the past. The connection is the guy who put this in plats is Paul Misfit who is now dead. He was Voinovich's chief of staff and he was in jail. The interesting aspect is he's the former coach from the Reagan/Bush campaign in the early 80's and he worked in the Bush campaign. He was in military intelligence. A lot of these convert operatives have known George Bush in the late 70's and moved into politics in Ohio and especially scandals including the coin scandals. They got caught with the coin investments. This was deliberate. This is all related. It's all the same players. They want you to believe they would manufacture fake evidence to attack Iraq of Nerberg but they'd never do anything illegal in Ohio. They would. They're elitists and they're entitled to rule. Samuel and Prescott Bush come from Columbus, Ohio and go way back. Samuel Bush was friends with the Rockerfeller family. He was put on the board of Buckeyed Bill casting and gave contracts to the Rockerfeller's. He gave unbid contracts to his own company which was Buckeyed Steel. Prescott was a key money lander to Frist Bision who funded the Nazi party. It was first reported in 1942. They called Prescott "Hitler's Angel". It's all in the public records. These people have been involved in shaky business all over the world with the CIA. One of the brothers who worked with Bush went on to head the CIA.
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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 09:09 PM
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19. Wow, how truly dispicable.....
Bush and his cronies plus Tom Noe were involved in hacking the machines. Kerry workers were asked to hack machines. This is just disgusting, these people need to be held for treason. :mad: :mad:

Who here agrees they need to be held for absolute treason and crimes against america?!??

About the only good news I heard on the Radio call was John Kerry refused to participate with the corruption after several weeks. His lawyers were corrupt and were in on the scam, I wonder if he knew anything about them working for the RNC....
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 09:11 PM
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20. Maybe that's why
Edited on Sat Jun-11-05 09:12 PM by FreedomAngel82
he didn't do anything?? :shrug: I've also heard the democrats in Ohio aren't really democrats and are there in disgusise. Ohio has a lot of corruption. :crazy:
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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 09:16 PM
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21. I can't believe this part though....
His wife and someone else were asked to help. That is just dispicable, these people have no shame and do it in broad daylight.

Kerry must have finally threw his hands up and decided against working with the DINOs, that is the only reason I can think of him joining the lawsuit in Ohio. This corruption is just scandalous.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 09:22 PM
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22. Me too
One can wonder.
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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 09:29 PM
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24. Blackwell had illegal access to the computers from office.
This is just disgusting in every way possible. I would say Kerry needs to be thrown in jail at the end of it all too, if he had stayed with these people. It seems like for a while he "intentionally" covered things up can't tell for sure.

Either way this story is horrible.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 04:57 PM
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41. Kerry-Heinz knows it was stolen
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/connelly/214744_joel07.html

"COUNTING THE VOTES: Heinz Kerry is openly skeptical about results from November's election, particularly in sections of the country where optical scanners were used to record votes.

"Two brothers own 80 percent of the machines used in the United States," Heinz Kerry said. She identified both as "hard-right" Republicans. She argued that it is "very easy to hack into the mother machines."

"We in the United States are not a banana republic," added Heinz Kerry. She argued that Democrats should insist on "accountability and transparency" in how votes are tabulated.

"I fear for '06," she said. "I don't trust it the way it is right now."


"
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suziedemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 11:12 PM
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31. "John Kerry refused to participate with the corruption after several weeks
Can you explain this further. Does that mean Kerry DID cooperate - but stopped after several weeks? Why would they ask THK to hack machines? Please don't tell me Kerry was in on this????? I hope this all blows wide open though!!!

I have heard a lot of gypsies settled in Ohio. Does anyone know if this is true?
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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 11:15 PM
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32. There was lots of religious extremists in Ohio.
DINOs (democrats in name only) who also worked for the RNC, and corruption. Fitrakis has interviewed all the witnesses. I think we need to post the full transcript of all the radio (I'm going to record/copy it tomorrow)
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suziedemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 11:57 PM
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35. AWESOME!!! I prefer reading to listening. Thanks! n/t
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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 04:42 AM
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38. This would explain why they didn't appeal the court case..
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 09:52 PM
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25. Thanks for all the info, FreedomAngel82 .
I missed this part of the show. Was Bob Fitrakis saying all of this?
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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 10:00 PM
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26. Yes. Go to the archives section to listen to it play again.
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 10:19 PM
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27. Thanks so much!
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 10:52 PM
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29. It is not yet available in the archive - or at least I could not find it..
Will be rebroadcast tomorrow at noon Pacific Standard Time.

:scared:
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 11:37 PM
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34. What are you saying here?
I am reading this thread and finding it very confusing.

Are you saying that Kerry was in on the vote fraud too?

I hope this is not true,

but if it is, it would finally answer why he conceded so early:shrug:

I just can't accept that...

I'm missing something here!
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 04:58 PM
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42. see my post 41
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 09:28 PM
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23. Go BBlog! Thanks for the summeries. Looks like a must listen. n/t
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ROH Donating Member (521 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 10:45 PM
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28. Any transcript, please? (n/t)
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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 11:02 PM
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30. I want Dean to spearhead this issue like the hero he is!
This one is just erupting into scandal after scandal.
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ROH Donating Member (521 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 11:39 AM
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46. Some transcripts at:
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KaliTracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 11:36 PM
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33. On Blackwell (Ohio Secretary of State) and Noe (coingate) connections
In the Toledo Blade this week --

Mr. Blackwell said his "battle" with the Noes over the elections board serves as clear evidence that he would not allow a contributor to interfere with his decision-making.

"I just haven't been a favorite of the Noes for quite some time," he said, describing the couple as "rough-and-tumble political bosses."

http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050605/NEWS24/506050376&SearchID=7321091526806

BUT WAIT

Tom Noe aided Mr. Blackwell by being an Intervenor for him in at least TWO court cases,

one regarding the use of provisional ballots about one month prior to the election http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/electionlaw/docs/sandusky/doc5.pdf


and one regarding the recount attempt by Cobb and Badnarik after the election http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/electionlaw/docs/ohio/Rios/intervene.pdf


seems to me if Noe was a "rough-and-tumble political boss" Blackwell wouldn't have wanted his name to be associated with Noe's in any way.... surely there could have been others who could have been Intervenors for Blackwell if he wanted?

:shrug:

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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 02:30 AM
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36. Simple.
Blackwell's lying to save his own skin.
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KaliTracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 08:37 AM
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39. oh, yes.... but I hope someone catches him! (I did forward these two
lawsuits to the reporter at The Blade who wrote that article).

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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 03:08 AM
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37. I'd also appreicate transcript(s) & clarification--thanks (nt)
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 04:51 PM
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40. .
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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 12:13 AM
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43. Available in the Archives.
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 10:17 AM
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44. .
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 11:50 AM
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45. .
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