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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:09 AM
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Baby deaths don't shake church's faith
June 12, 2005


Baby deaths don't shake church's faith
Members support 2 couples who relied on God to save sick infants

By Robert King
robert.king@indystar.com


MORGANTOWN, Ind. -- Tucked away in a remote corner of Morgan County, along a country lane that snakes through thick woods, is a little church attracting attention for the deaths of some members' babies.

At their weekly Thursday night service, the church's members prayed that God's comfort would come to the parents of the two children who have died most recently. And there were acknowledgements of the church's grief over the losses.

But at the General Assembly and Church of the Firstborn, these tragedies are seen through another lens, too. In each case, the parents sought no medical assistance for their children, relying instead solely on providence to save their babies or take them home.

In this little church on Lick Creek Road, such fateful choices are seen as testimonies to a healthy faith. At Thursday's service, one man praying publicly thanked God for the example set by Dewayne and Maleta Schmidt, the rural Franklin couple convicted last month of reckless homicide after they sought no medical care for their struggling newborn in 2003.

Link: http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050612/NEWS01/506120402


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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:12 AM
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1. Didn't God make doctors??
I'll never understand that thinking.
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Stew225 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:13 AM
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2. And this, ladies and gentlemen,
is why this country is screwed!

These "morans" shouldn't even be allowed to procreate.
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:16 AM
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3. And we would most definitely be "screwed".....
if the Government had such a right over the people.

Irony alert!
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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:20 AM
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6. Agreed, can't legislate against stupidity
This is the same area a judge ordered a divorced couple (Wiccans) to raise their child only in a "mainstream" religion. Definite: y


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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:17 AM
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4. Why do they subject themselves to a "God" who is so weak
that ANYONE can do millions of things against "His" will?

BTW, even Abraham of the OT was allowed to spare his son! = He didn't have to do that to prove himself worthy to lead Israel.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:18 AM
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5. I like the way the reporter managed to work "snakes" into the article.
Edited on Sun Jun-12-05 10:45 AM by Lars39
This little cult is bonkers.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:22 AM
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7. So no matter how many infants die, they'll remain committed to their
faith.

Heaping tons of scorn and contempt their way.

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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:25 AM
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8. Remember...
It's MURDER to abort a fetus...
And FAITH to allow a baby to die!
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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:26 AM
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My head just exploded
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:35 AM
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12. Ewww.
Who's going to clean up that mess?

Back on topic...
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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 03:45 PM
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20. Cleaned up now
But you did make the most salient point about the disconnect these people must have. Don't they realize the contradictory positions they espouse?


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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:31 AM
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10. Exactly...in a nutshell.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:36 AM
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14. And for those that fall in between, suffering is noble.
Edited on Sun Jun-12-05 10:36 AM by Lars39
When you suffer, you're just like Christ on the cross. Blech.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 01:05 PM
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18. y eah, that and Terri Schaivo
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 05:17 PM
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21. Ah, but Terry Schaivo WAS a fetus...
Or might as well have been. Her husband attempted to 'abort' her by pulling out the feeding errr... umbilical cord! Yes, that's it!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:26 AM
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9. As long as it's not a fetus in a young desperate teenager...
it's ok.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:34 AM
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11. It's god's way...
of telling these people they were too stupid to reproduce in the first place.

--IMM
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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:35 AM
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13. I prefer to think
it's proof that Darwin was right.


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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:37 AM
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15. I disagree
If Gawd didn't want them to reproduce, he would have made them sterile.
And given the atitude they showed, the process of sterilization should have been painful.
Stupidity should be painful.
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:48 AM
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16. I wonder if this woman had Novocain when they filled her cavities
and pulled her teeth. And I'd love to see just one of them refusing pain medication if they had a pinched nerve in their back.


Among those who see corrective eyewear as an acceptable dose of health care is Ollie Neal, the church matriarch who also admits to having dentists fill cavities and pull her bad teeth. "It's not taking medicine into your body," she said. "I don't see that as seeking to save your life."
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:48 AM
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17. Lunatics.
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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 02:23 PM
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19. Punt
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