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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:12 AM
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One dummy on ABC just stated that Scalia and Thomas
think that things like Violence Against Women should be state level laws.

Now on the face of it, this sounds ridiculous and maybe even nuts, but given what Bush has already done and has the potential to do over the next 3 years it sounds like its time for women to start checking out individual state's laws on violence against women and choose their future home accordingly.

I hope you guys like living in all male populated states.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:31 AM
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1. Who says men don't support violence against women laws?
In addition to being the morally right thing, the sort of men who resort to violence against women don't just restrict their violence to the female half of the population.
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:51 AM
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2. I don't believe I said that men don't support violence against women
Basically I said that if the conservatives get their way, women with any brains will be moving out of those states which do not pass and enforce tough laws against beating up women.
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 11:00 AM
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3. However poor women don't have that option.
Just like poor people don't have that option to just pick up and move. Move to where? How will they move? How will they pay their bills? Even people with highly sought after skills and college degrees are having a hard time finding jobs in this economic climate.

My sister was battered for years and when she left the guy and got a judges order to pay her child support he left town. He owes her thousands in child support and legal fees. She is in a horrible state for these types of laws, in fact, she furthered her personal debt (had to claim bankruptcy twice even though she works full time in a hard blue collar job with two teen boys) by hiring someone to find the asshole.

She found him in Michigan and told the court. The SC court said they couldn't do anything to garnish his wages out of state.

I'm just trying to say, this reminds me of the criticism I hear about the so-called red states. Why don't people just move to a blue state yell the so-called blue staters. Because we don't want to give up our homes, jobs, family, whatever to be a homeless unemployed vagabond eating at soup kitchens in the safe blue state. :eyes:
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 12:08 PM
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5. You're right to some extent.
But I'd still be moving even if I had to go to my family and ask for a loan. I'm not a survivalist, but I do believe in doing whatever it takes to survive.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 12:24 PM
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8. SC has no power to garnish his wages outside of SC
WHat your sister has to do is open a parallel proceeding in MI. MI court has to honor the judgment and garnishment order from SC. Then his employer will send your sister her $.
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kittenpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 11:07 AM
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4. yeah, I'd really hate to see our fed. gov't overstepping their bounds
& saying you can't beat a woman with reeds for showing her ankles...:puke: thank god for that republican common sense!
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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 12:18 PM
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6. Yep, a truly dispicable display.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 12:22 PM
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7. The Federal Violence Against Women Act already ruled unconstitutional
Several years ago. The Medical Marijuana case rolled back the inplication of that ruling. Federalism is dead.
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