IMPEACHMENT PRECEDINGS, WHO STARTS THEM?

[Divine Discontent]

SPECIFICALLY? DOES IT JUST TAKE ANY CONGRESSMEMBER TO BRING IT UP IN SESSION?

I know the "average" American doesn't know about the DSM or really care, but frankly, people didn't care about Watergate, but the Dems got Nixon.

This pre planned war bullshit is the end of the Bush regime if done PERFECTLY. They need Dean to be an attack dog with brains this next 90 days to desimate the Republicans, anyone with a connection to him, please tell him to ride this hard. This is worse than anything. All those dead bodies of Americans and Iraqis, and for what????? A completely planned war for financial, vengeful, and power hungry reasons, based on falsified and fabricated information.

W E M U S T S T A N D T O G E T H E R !

[ThomWV]

1. Any Congressman

But it has to get on the Schedule to be presented. That is where we have a problem.

[nadinbrzezinski]

2. A congressman on the floor

has to reaad then and introduce them

This has to be first aproved by the rules committee... which is headed by Hot Tub Tom (delay)

[AuntPatsy]

3. Are you serious? It has to be approved by Delay of all people?

[Divine Discontent]

7. oh STOP!

SERIOUSLY????? TOM DELAY?????

This makes me nauseous!

We need a united front, I'm serious. Their is enough evidence to defend a debate on impeachment. This President lied about pre war planning. He is a filthy liar and needs impeached. For that and about 1000 other things, oh, and of course, every death that occurred because of his nation-building revenge for profit fiasco!!!!!

[LightningFlash]

8. Which is why Tommy Boy DeLay, the great Christian right man....

Needs to have his federal investigation finish up first. :mad: :mad:

Get his ass completely taken off the post, or better yet, with a full public outcry replace DeLay with someone else immediately for any Hearings in congress.

Doubt it can happen though. DeLay is....."DeLayed" in all his wonderful investigations and oops....Look at this web...

http://houseofscandal.org

[cyclezealot]

10. we need hassle Delay.

How about things like sit ins in his District office..Picket him at public events...Present our 500,000 petitions to him..Lobby his committee and don't back down...Sit in at his committees' members office , district and in DC...Put on a real ad campaign...Have Move On put ads on network tv about the issue, demanding an investigation of the matter..Since the networks won't cover it, we need bring it to the American people...

[LightningFlash]

11. Or even better....

Shame him so badly he never will step out of his house again, unless he signs the papers. :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:

His reputation already in the sewers, he could be forced to be removed if everyone lobbies on his doorstep making his lies become frontpage news.

[KharmaTrain]

23. Sorry To Ruin Your Party

How about electing a Democratic majority to the House, so Democrats can make the rules and control the agenda.

Think about this...a gain of 20 seats put John Conyers in the chair of that very committee that would hear and pass out those articles, plus it would put James Sensenbrenner on the outside...where that asshat belongs.

That still wouldn't be enough, but it would enable Democats to launch investigations and put the brakes on this regime's abuses and start force it to be accountable.

Any impeachment would require majorities in both the House and Senate that are beyond the dreams of even the most optimistic strategist. You'd need at least 330 Dems in the House and 60 in the Senate.

While it's fun to dream impeachment, let's try something more constructive and get Democrats elected first.

[LightningFlash]

27. Actually that will not be possible....

If you do not raise the impeachment and make it front page, because the country has seen what the DINOs do and these democrats in name only care nothing for these issues.

If they don't raise the impeachments, they'll only tank. Plus on top of that Howard Dean said it all in bold detail.....Either those machines are fixed, or no one is getting elected from either side. Neocons will elect themselves! :crazy:

[kittenpants]

24. okay, that's depressing, I admit. How's that TX attorney doing, btw?

well, 2006 congressionals are more important than ever.

[Just Me]

5. They should pull a Rover and rename it,...

,...The Democracy Provisions or somethin' like that so it can get to the floor!!! }(

[OrlandoGator]

4. Sensenbrenner proved that they don't care about Congressional prodecure.

I doubt it will be allowed to happen, and I doubly doubt that any Democrat has the balls.

[Just Me]

6. Waxman had the balls. He already drafted one.

It's more an issue of gaining momentum and forcing some fear into the political lives of Republicans. In other words, as American outrage rises, politicians tend to be more likely to do the right thing. With the DSM spreading like wildfire, the American outrage is increasing!!!

[Prodemsouth]

9. No there are some with balls Conyers, others.

Judging by some the post on this thread people really have a lot to learn about the way the government works. It appears many people don't know what it means for a party to have majority in the house or Senate. They don't understand why at this point Bush can't be impeached and why the Dems appear spineless. Some of it is true spineless behavior, but other times it is to help their consituties by not attacking the majority party's people too hard because they control the purse strings.

[LightningFlash]

13. "Purses and pocketbooks" ?

How about we forget that and just go all out? Who cares about their "pocketbooks" when this is about the PEOPLE? And it's not just democrats there are lots of republicans who want answers as well....Including in congress, who DO have their own authority....

[Prodemsouth]

22. Who are the Congessional Republicans who want answers?

Name them. Are you saying money plays no role in the actions of elected officals?

[LightningFlash]

29. Well this comes to mind.

Congressman Mel Martinez, John Walters, Chuck Hagel, there was a couple of others just speaking up.

[cyclezealot]

12. we just have to put pressure on committee members

picketing, whatever it takes...lobby with a high profile..Maybe Michael Moore can help us to start our campaign. basically, be visible ..how about start with a march on the capital...think we could muster 100,000 people for starters...Make Downing Street Memos a well known phrase..
don't count on the media to bring this to the public's attention. come on, we can do it..

[Divine Discontent]

15. AWESOME..

let's get it going... I know Michael Moore would get involved.

I will write him at [e-mail] or [e-mail] tonight. You do the same. write me at [e-mail] and we'll see if we get any responses. I seriously would march or hold signs that just say Downing Street Memo on corners here in Orlando if anyone would want to do it with me. I'm off Friday. I'm so sick of Bush, let's get this on the front page of DU by nominating it, and get impeachment a more serious discussion, because we've been too DORMANT in our allowance of Bush's antics... seriously. Back in the day, they would have ran over the capital if you know what I mean. Now, I don't believe that is the right thing to do at all, in this case, but a heavy march and picketing will work WONDERS for the sheeple who only pay attention to silly news like who won the Nascar race, did their stocks go up, and who got married/divorced in Hollywood this week.

[cyclezealot]

18. IF we are serious it is up to us..

If not..Might as well let the subject die...It is up to us...Who are potential organizers...Move On I guess..Lets say we picket our Repug member of Congress at their office with signs,sit ins, etc..Can the local press ignore us, if we are noisy enough.?
Don't follow this course..then we are wasting our time, unnecessarily raising our blood pressure...
Come on Michael Moore, we need your inspiration...to rally the troops...Michael Moore, Move On ..Who could stop us.

[cyclezealot]

25. good idea..

thanks..I emailed Michael..We await our and his response..thanks..Cyclezealot.

[cyclezealot]

30. as I suggested to Marty..

how about Make Sensebrenner a campaign target..

[GetTheRightVote]

14. The Democratic Party of Wisconsin have requested Impeachment

proceedings against Bust, Cheney, and Rumsfeld. It is beginning to happen as it should when leaders lie to the public.


:kick:

[Divine Discontent]

16. did any of the democratic congressman say they would

do anything?

[LightningFlash]

17. Yes. But how many signed on?

[mahatmakanejeeves]

19. "Dems got Nixon" - Not so

The tide didn't turn against Nixon until Rethuglicans became persuaded that he had done wrong. 1974. When Goldwater began to smell a rat, then things got serious.

[gulliver]

20. It's impeachment "proceedings," BTW.

Not sure we want to confuse the freepers any more than necessary. For them, impeachment "precedings" are trivial little things like a horn dog president getting a BJ while on the clock.

Bush's impeachment precedings have to do with screwing up the country's safety, its defenses, its reputation, and its economy. Thus, in the freeper mind, Bush doesn't have the necessary preceedings to be impeached.

[panzerfaust]

21. Impeachment?! Is it that no one understands??

The government of the United States was seized by a – relatively – bloodless coup in 2000.

These people are NOT going to be giving up power.

Study history, the Ruling Class has:

Indira Gandhi, the prime minister of India, is found guilty of electoral corruption ... Despite calls for her resignation, Gandhi refused to give up India's top office and later declared martial law ... she ordered India's invasion of Pakistan ... which won her greater popularity and led ... to a landslide victory in ... 1972... In 1975, the High Court ... convicted her of a minor election infraction ... In response, she declared a state of emergency throughout India, imprisoned thousands of political opponents, and restricted personal freedoms in the country... In 1977, long-postponed national elections were held, and Gandhi and her party were swept from office.

They have accomplished the first part, and they are not going to let the second part occur.

Also, do not mistake the Ruling Class with the Republithugs: Kerry is just at home in the backrooms of power as Bush. However, I would have preferred the illusion of democracy under the Democrats, to the overt totalitarianism of the Republithug Regime.

Nearly all men can withstand adversity; If you want to test a man's character, give him power.
~ Abraham Lincoln

[Independent_Liberal]

26. A Congress person has to send in an inquiry...

...to the House Judiciary Committee and they vote on whether or not to let the impeachment proceedings begin. I think that's how it works. Am I right on that?

[ArkDem]

28. You exhibit a remarkable political instinct.