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LuckyTheDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 06:54 PM
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The problem with Iraq
One of the biggest problems with Iraq, as I see it, is that the Iraqis never asked us to "liberate" them. Sure, some are glad we are there. Most, I am sure, just want the nightmare to end. But this quagmire shows the folly of just going in with guns blazing and saying "We're from the U.S. government and we're here to help you."

Had we gone in to help Iraqis who had risen up on their own, the whole story would have been different. But for whatever reason, there simply was no will on the part of Iraqis to do that.

They never ASKED for our help. And we're scratching out heads wondering why they aren't hailing us as liberators?
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 06:59 PM
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1. the "whatever" reason is...that the Iraqis DID rise up in the early '90's
and King Bush the first left them in the lurch. Yet the No-fly zone bombings continued throughout the '90's along with economic sanctions.

Gee I wonder why they didn't rise up again.
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LuckyTheDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 07:01 PM
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2. Yep
We really hurt our credibility there. That's another reason they never asked us to help them -- and never would have.
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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 07:12 PM
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3. I recently watched a Peter Arnett documentary just before the invasion.
He was interviewing female university students. They said if Americans invaded they would fight them -- that they would gladly die for their country fighting any invaders. They would fight with pencils or whatever weapons they could find.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 02:32 AM
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4. the problem with Iraq is that we illegally invaded the country . . .
and are now illegally occupying the country . . . everything about this whole operation was and is illegal under international law . . . and those responsible must be brought to justice at some point . . .
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 02:40 AM
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5. Agreed plus our
Govt. and the Corporate Media keep saying that the Insurgency are merely terrorists that hate democracy and that they are trying to prevent democracy from happening in Iraq. I feel that it is the Bush Regime that is trying to prevent Iraq from becoming an actual Democracy!
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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 02:40 AM
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6. But true to form....
Darth Cheney was able to "make it legal" and send his wind up clock toys like George Bush to catapult the propaganda! We're spreading freedom and democracy everywhere, woohoo!

Peace and prosperity to our new empire. Now justice must be served. :mad: :mad:
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