So the Bushies trying to refute DSM-2 by saying that they DID

[Jackpine Radical]

plan this war. That statement in itself seems to be very ill-considered and should be enough to create immense problems for them. Think about it.

If the Gang that Couldn't Shoot Straight actually planned this mess, that's far more criminal than if it all happened by accident.

It would imply that they knew they were getting us into a quagmire from the beginning, and did it anyway.

It would imply that they knew they were gonna need a lot of years of war to keep them in power.

It would imply that they see benefits for themselves and their cronies in an unwinnable war and these potential benefits override any concern for the deaths of thousands of westerners & Iraqis. Benefits like re-election, the enrichment of Halliburton and KBR, and the deliberate looting of the American economy.

And ya know what? For once I believe them. I think they did know more or less what was gonna happen. After all, they certainly should have known. Poppy, Schwartzkopf and Colin Powell knew a long time ago, at the end of GW I. That's why they didn't go to Baghdad then.

So these people are not stupid. They knew there would be no rose petals. Instead, they are massively criminal.

Impeachment? Hell, yes.

[AuntiBush]

1. Power & Money Sure Does Get People in Big Trouble, huh!

The bigger they are, they harder they will fall. I expect this to hit big-time by the end of this week. Probably on dead-Friday.

[knowbody0]

2. george did not even know

that Iraqis were for centuries tribally divided. he did not know there were Sunni, Shia, and Kurdish differences. he had no fucking idea who the Iraqi people were.

[Jackpine Radical]

3. Sure, but do you actually think Chimpie made the decisions?

I bet half the Neocons have PhDs from places like Chicago.

[Karenina]

6. Strauss and his true believers....

:kick:

[thereismore]

4. That's actually a slick strategy. Because:

they should be saying "Of course we were planning the war. It would have been irresponsible if we hadn't planned every detail in advance, for the eventuality that it would have to be used. But it was the last option." So there. I was surprised they hadn't come up with this shit right after DSM I.

[The Magistrate]

5. Indeed, Sir

Much of this mess only appears stupid if one accepts that it had at its root such motives as occupying Iraq as a stable possession for profitable exploitation of its resources, or takes at face value such mendacities of the regime as "spreading democracy" or "striking a blow against terror" and similar prole-feed swill.

In my view the basic reason behind the endeavor was the short term effect it was sure to have on domestic politics in our country, spiced with the opportunity to fil a dew well connected pockets through no-bid contracts and the chance of rank thievery the enterprise supplied. The reason for this invasion was to "cook" the elections of '02 and '04, by providing distraction for the people from their economic distress, by rallying those portions of the electorate most susceptible to the traditional appeals of patriotism and the solidarity of conflict, and to enable the smearing of any outspoken criticism of the regime a anti-patriotic. These goals all were achieved. That the long-term effects might even work to the detriment of the Republican Party did not figure into the calculations of this particular set of bucanneers, since their chief and emblem could not be relected to office again after they were achieved in any case....