Tandalayo_Scheisskopf
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Mon Jun-13-05 04:28 PM
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So, the sense I get is... |
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That people are angry he was acquitted. That people just KNEW he was guilty. That they knew better than 12 good men and women true, who sat through the trial for all this time and heard the evidence and deliberated thoughtfully and with reason.
Some bunch of fucking enlightened beings you are. Hang your heads in shame.
This place just lost a little something for me.
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Mon Jun-13-05 04:29 PM
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1. I think he's guilty, but they didn't come close to proving it |
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This was the correct verdict.
The law ain't pretty sometimes.
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Mon Jun-13-05 04:30 PM
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5. I agree the verdict was correct |
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but the testimony didn't make him look guilty to me. So I am going to say he wasn't guilty.
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Mon Jun-13-05 04:33 PM
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I'd rather the system be preserved, even if it means a wrongful acquittal, than the system be broken to punish one guilty man.
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Mon Jun-13-05 04:34 PM
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16. Agreed. He seems pretty guilty to me. |
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But "seems to me" is not a sound basis for a conviction. They had nothing on him.
And to be perfectly honest, it has been well-known that MJ was a pedophile freak for over a decade. In a perfect world, the only ones who should be put on trial are the opportunistic parents who put their children in what they KNOW TO BE a snake's den, with hopes of a Jackpot payoff in the future. SICK. I wouldn't let my boys within a mile of that freak.
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Mon Jun-13-05 04:42 PM
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22. Scots justice allows for three separate verdict possibilities |
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"Guilty" or "Not gulty" or a third, "not proven." I think that would have come in handy on the misdemeanor charge in this case, at the very least.
The DA admitted he was on a vendetta, the prosecuting witnesses were all moneygrubbers or looney tunes, and he basically allowed his judgment to be clouded by his need to "get" Michael Jackson. I think there may be a case for misconduct.
Someday, that kid will grow up and write a book. That's when we'll find out whether or not anything serious happened to him besides growing up with a lunatic family and being subjected to the ordinary blandishments of Neverland Ranch.
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Mon Jun-13-05 04:29 PM
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2. I haven't noticed that. |
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Mon Jun-13-05 04:29 PM
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3. Yeah, we didn't hear all the character witnesses whose testimony |
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"counteracted" the truth.
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Mon Jun-13-05 04:30 PM
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4. Well at least MJ got a trial |
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here on DU most people are guilty without a trial.
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Mon Jun-13-05 04:31 PM
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8. Who will be in his bed next and how soon? |
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Mon Jun-13-05 04:31 PM
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6. I'm a little bit surprised myself |
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but then I haven't really followed a lot of the pop culture stuff here at DU. It wasn't as if the jury jumped to a fast judgment.
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Mon Jun-13-05 04:31 PM
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Ohhhh...you're talking about someone else.
Never mind.
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Mon Jun-13-05 04:32 PM
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Mon Jun-13-05 04:32 PM
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10. It never mattered to me. |
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One way or the other, I've always seen it as a private matter, that others forced in the spotlight. These threads make reference to people I've never even heard of before today. I personally think we need to point out how this is all a distraction from things we should be focusing on, and leave it at that.
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Mon Jun-13-05 04:32 PM
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They weren't there. They didn't know what the evidence was. They didn't listen to the testimony.
Yet they feel justified in reaching their own personal verdict.
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Mon Jun-13-05 04:33 PM
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12. Oh, please, there is such a diversity of opinion on here |
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it always blows me away when people go, DU thinks this, DU thinks that. There are what, 70,000 posters? It amazes me that anyone thinks this place is anything other than a bughouse full of different opinions.
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Mon Jun-13-05 04:38 PM
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Mon Jun-13-05 04:33 PM
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14. hey I'm not angry he was acquitted |
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I am glad. I felt he was being victimized by extortionists. I'm pretty sure if I searched my posts, I could find several where I said if I were the judge, I would have thrown this case out long ago.
I really think he's innocent. I'm glad the jury who had more time to consider this evidence agrees. I would hate to think that Jackson actually did any of this stuff. I just think he's a weird, weird person who probably needs help getting his life on track. But I don't think he's a child molester.
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Mon Jun-13-05 04:33 PM
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15. Sheesh I hate posts like this, spare us your outrage because some |
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people on this message board do not agree with a verdict, why do people always find a reason to put the Democratic underground down especially over something so trivial?...
Now on to pressing matters, is there a group of people walking with Conyers to the white house on thursday to deliver the letter to the illegal occupant who resides there at this time?
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Mon Jun-13-05 04:36 PM
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17. I was a little surprised he got off on all the counts |
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The jurors did their job and worked with what they were given. System works.
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Mon Jun-13-05 04:40 PM
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Spot on. He may be weirder than all getout, but as of today, that does not make him a child molester.
I hope his family gets Frank Deleo back in the management of his affairs and I hope he receives whatever help he might need with making his life more manageable.
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Mon Jun-13-05 04:48 PM
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26. Agreed...he needs to change his lifestyle after this.... |
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:eyes:
But I am happy with this jury's verdict as well.
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Mon Jun-13-05 04:37 PM
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18. Liberals are considered "weird" and "creepy" by some. |
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If we are all tried someday I hope people remember this.
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Mon Jun-13-05 04:39 PM
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20. No fucking sermons from you |
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There are two Americas and two justice systems: one for the wealthy and one for everyone else. It's a disgrace and a shame.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf
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Mon Jun-13-05 04:42 PM
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Edited on Mon Jun-13-05 04:43 PM by Tandalayo_Scheisskop
Definitely. But I am always heartened when, in this toxic media climate, someone is found not guilty. In watching the coverage, I saw the media doing everything it could to convict him by any means fair or foul. That greatly disturbed me.
On your initial point, regarding the sermons, I suggest you attempt a physically impossible act. M'kay?
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Mon Jun-13-05 04:46 PM
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24. Some didn't care about the truth |
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Just the fact that he's weird was enough for many.
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Mon Jun-13-05 04:47 PM
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25. Isn't that a sad commentary for progressives? |
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Mon Jun-13-05 04:53 PM
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i wish i knew how some here could be so sure of his guilt even though a jury sat through the entire process and found that they believe michale to be not guilty.
sure michael is weird and admitted that he let children sleep in his bed, but that act alone does not make one a child molester. The rest has to be proven beyone a reasonable doubt, which it wasn't.
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Mon Jun-13-05 04:55 PM
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29. This place just lost a little something for me. |
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Remember, this place is made up with many different types of people. All are flawed right along with everybody else.
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