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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 10:14 PM
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If Bush's approval is at 43% what's Cheney's?
I'm thinking about 2%. What say you?
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whatgives Donating Member (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 10:16 PM
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1. I don't know
maybe 4%?:evilgrin:
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NEOBuckeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 10:17 PM
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2. I read somewhere that it was close to 29%
It was a while ago, and I don't have the link. Cheney has never been particularly popular with anyone, even within the GOP rank and file.
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 10:18 PM
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4. It has to be at least half that by now. He reeks. n/t
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 10:18 PM
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3. That question is not asked in polls, typically because the VP....
...has no power to make decisions or issue commands, so what is there to approve or disapprove?
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 10:20 PM
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6. I'd think approval of his contributions to policy making--
the VP is very influential. Didn't they ever do polls on Gore?
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 10:36 PM
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21. VPs aren't supposed to be very active in policy making
Cheney has an active role for obvious reasons. Gore had sort of an active role, but that's because he and Clinton liked each oher and Gore was meant to be Clinton's successor, so they wanted to make it look like he did something in office.

If you've ever watched any episodes of the West Wing that feature Vice President Hoynes, they usually dipict what a more typical President/VP relationship is. The President and the VP don't particularly like each other and the VP absolutely hates his job because he feels that he is above it and that he should have won the nomination and become President.
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 10:40 PM
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23. Thanks for the info...
although there may not actually be a poll for the VP, I still think extremely low numbers would hold for Cheney.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 10:53 PM
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24. Cheney is supposed to fire up the base I believe
But all he really fires up is the gung-ho chickenhawks who turnout to vote anyway. You'd think if they wanted to fire up the base they'd get a bigger bible humper than Cheney for VP. My guess is that they needed somebody who didn't want to run for POTUS so that they could keep the field clear.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 06:42 AM
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29. Right, remember when the right-wing neo-conservatives jumped
...all over Al Gore for allegedly saying that he "invented the internet". That was supposedly based on poll perceptions but was a total distortion of what Gore said and did. The right really worked their "poll magic" through focus groups as to how they could frame and warp the idea of Gore as a "do nothing but take credit for" vice president. Through Gores influential position as VP he was able to facilitate the implementation of the internet system as we have come to know it today.

Cheney should be included in national polls because he is a self-appointed pretender president. Clearly Dick Cheney has a great deal of influence on national and foreign policy even though the people voted for George Bush to be where the buck stops and not Dick Cheney who seems to be a flood gate of bucks flowing through to his pals at Halliburton.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 10:19 PM
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5. Depending on the particular scale used for the survey, it could be
a negative value.

I remember someone who observed the recount in New Hampshire after the 2004 election reported that one voter had checked the box next to *, and had then used up about half-a-pen's worth of ink X'ing out Cheney's name. And that was month's ago...

:kick:
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 10:21 PM
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7. Shrub's approval rating hasn't been 43%...or any where near it...
in at least 6 months now. My guess is about 30%...IF he's lucky!
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 10:25 PM
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9. I truly believe that. I also don't believe he was above 50% last Nov. nt
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 10:30 PM
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13. You can post "IF he's lucky" just about anywhere
And "IF he's lucky" we won't see a military draft by this time next year, but thats only "IF he's lucky", I am betting not x(
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carpetbagger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 10:24 PM
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8. About 4-8% below Bush.
On pollingreport.com, there's a pair of surveys from April. Faux had Bush at 47, Cheney at 43. Harris had Bush at 43, Cheney at 37% job approval.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 10:27 PM
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10. Sub-zero, like his personality
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Zeke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 10:27 PM
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11. Come on !!!
Words are meaningless utterances to Bush Inc.
Polls are something they don't care about.

They fix paperless elections.
The media is for Bush Inc.

Nothing in their behavior suggests
they care about polls at all---nothing.

Their numbers are down and they moving
farther to the right, farther and farther.
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 10:30 PM
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12. In the Orwellian world of BushCo, they SAY they don't care, but
you'd better believe they do. They hounded Clinton for following the polls, but they use them more than he does. Case in point: BushCo's media harped on polls all during the elections. They even bought a pollster in to refute the exit polls they knew were indicators of their election theft. They care alright.
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Zeke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 10:35 PM
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17. NO.
Bush Inc cares only for focus group polls,
from which they conjure ways to sell (lie)
their policies to working-stiff fools
who vote against their own interest by
voting GOP.

Opinion polls related to the ongoing
war Bush Inc. doesn't give a shit
about---not at all.

Their behvaior shows they don't care.
Case & point: despite bad polls on Iraq,
watch for the military draft call from Bush.
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alarcojon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 10:33 PM
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14. About the same as Bush, believe it or not
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 10:33 PM
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15. I'll take "or not" for $500 alarc.... n/t
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AndreaCG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 11:03 AM
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32. A lot of don't knows there.
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alarcojon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 11:20 AM
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34. True dat!
Which is to be expected of the Veep in our anti-intellectual society.


The data on Cheney is also pretty old - the most recent is from April, with 43% approve. Bush was about the same at the time, but with very few "no opinions."
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 10:35 PM
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16. -1 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000%
He's the most hated man in the world...
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 10:36 PM
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18. Bwhahahaha n/t
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La Coliniere Donating Member (581 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 10:36 PM
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19. Probably lower than..
Spiro Agnew's or Dan Quayle's. And even more of an embarrassment.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 10:36 PM
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20. Does Cheney even HAVE an approval rating?
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 10:38 PM
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22. betcha their in the 30's by 911
:scared:

peace
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Skypilot 18 Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 11:05 PM
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25. Cheney's ratings ??????????
Cheney's approval rating . He doesn't have one. He's got one hell of a disapproval rating though depending on who you talk to. He's got all the personality of Charley Manson, only with more blood on his hands. (and that's a lot of blood)
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 02:10 PM
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35. sorry, i meant the chimp
:hi:

peace
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 11:26 PM
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26. This is like asking how Darth Vader polls among the Empire.
Opinions are not asked. They're given.
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aTm_exrugger Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 11:46 PM
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27. Watched about 3 seconds of the Hannity Brown Nosing
He asked Cheney what we would do about a "Draft Cheney '
08" at the RNC. He said he would not accept the nomination. I kept thinking that should be our slogan in '08.

I say 3 seconds because that is all i can watch. Hannity reminded me of the defense questioning their star witness in a criminal trial. All Colmes could do was call the breaks, but that isn't anything new to him.

Matt
Mundus vult decepi
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 12:11 AM
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28. He's at turdy tree and a turd also.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 07:03 AM
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30. I dunno for many look upon Cheney as the good cop
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 07:06 AM
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31. Who? Mary Cheney's?
After Kerry's vicious outing of her in the debates... :crazy: (which is pathetic of the repukes to spin, she's been out for a long time... also proves whgat a load of braindead shitheads the American public is for believing it too.)
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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 11:07 AM
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33. Cheney adds credibility to Bush, so if Cheney's numbers are so low...
Then how in the Hell is Bush at 43%?:shrug:
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 04:28 PM
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36. There is like a 33% threshold...
That seems to be the die-hards who worship anything to do with Bush/Cheney.
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