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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 04:17 AM
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THIS takes the cake: USA ready to offer amnesty to INSURGENTS!
Read especially the bold paragraph, friends. This ought to go over great with the surviving families. Next thing you know Saddam will be back in power. (After he "gassed his own people"!) Tell your Bush-voting colleagues about this story and be certain to include this quote, "No nation can negotiate with terrorists. For there is no way to make peace with those whose only goal is death!" (President George W. Bush, 04/04/02)
FLIP FLOP!

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BAGHDAD, Iraq - U.S. and Iraqi officials are considering difficult-to-swallow ideas — including amnesties for their enemies — as they look for ways to end the country's rampant insurgency and isolate extremists wanting to start a civil war.

Negotiations have just begun between U.S. and Iraqi officials on drafting an amnesty policy, which would reach out to Iraqi militants fighting U.S. forces, say officials in both the Iraqi and American governments.

But foreign extremists like Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, responsible for
Iraq's bloodiest attacks, would not be offered any amnesty, the Iraqi and U.S. authorities told The Associated Press in recent days....

"I think eventually we will probably talk with people who have killed Americans," said Kenneth Katzman, an expert on the Persian Gulf region with the U.S. Congressional Research Service. "We may not see anybody at the table who has killed U.S. soldiers but we will see groups represented who have killed Americans."

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050614/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_talking_to_the_enemy_1

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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 04:22 AM
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1. Only a Republican Administration could ever get away with this
Would we ever stop hearing the word "appeasement" and the spurious World War II analogies from the neoconservatives and their think tanks if a Democratic Administration ever proposes such action?
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 05:01 AM
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3. It's amazing. Such hypocrites. nt
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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 04:22 AM
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2. This is just pathetic and frightening....
We never would have been in this mess, had all the votes been counted and Howard Dean was president!!!! :mad: :mad:

Offering amnesty to our enemies, is just the typical crazed conservative way of thinking. Nobody's going to get anything done, for gods sake, by offering jesus speak!

Everyone wants their own religion the way they want it. It's time people get that. Howard Dean would have apologized to lebanon for the severe deaths and lack of USA accountability had he been president right now. That is what caused them, muslims all over, to hate our christianity. We would have reached out with actual DIPLOMACY to end these ridiculous insurgencies and find real terrorists.

This is what is so pathetic to watch....That we had the chance to avoid this. :cry:
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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 08:40 AM
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15. Uhhhhm, but...
If all the votes were counted, then Senator Kerry would have won the election and would be president today.

Not that I have anything against Dean, mind you. He's a keeper.
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 06:04 AM
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4. How many times have freepers said liberals support insurgents?
Hey, conservative idiots! You've fallen for the bait-and-switch AGAIN! Losers.
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 08:30 AM
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10. Why wouldn't I support Iraqis? They're not doing anything wrong. The US
is on the wrong team here.
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 04:43 PM
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22. There's a big difference between the Iraqi citizens and the "insurgents"
Of course you support Iraquis. Anyone in Iraq (including the U.S. and the insurgents) who uses violence to get anything done is automatically in the wrong.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 06:12 AM
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5. Bush will do anything.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 08:15 AM
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6. Amazing-the 5 "P''s" apply here
Prior
Planning
Prevents
Pisspoor
Performance
:kick:
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 08:23 AM
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7. please talk to us, we really want to stay in Iraq
our country thinks you're winning.
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 08:29 AM
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8. Um, THE INSURGENTS ARE DEFENDING THEIR NATION. They're not
doing anything WRONG.

And Iraqis ARE NOT TERRORISTS....

The USA has no right to be sending death squads to Iraq.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 08:29 AM
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9. And, when they refuse the "generous" offer to negotiate, we can
kill them (and, whoever else happens to be around) without having to worry about "collateral damage" because it will be their fault for not negotiating with the trustworthy and humane Americans.

Americans have a real knack for thinking that their opponents are as stupid as our "leaders" are.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 08:39 AM
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14. Do or die...
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 08:48 AM
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17. Exactly. A much valued American tradition.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 08:32 AM
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11. British offer amnesty to americans holed up in valley forge
The british have offered a retroactive amnesty for the rebel americans
with free chicken dinners even though many have killed british soldiers.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 08:35 AM
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12. This isn't going to work. The Iraqi people know what's going on.
The US multi-national corporacrat regime has put in place a cooperative puppet government that will benefit the corporacrats on the backs of the Iraqi people. The Iraqi people have already been through this.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 08:38 AM
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13. Maybe we'll offer them rewards to turn themselves in??
So long as it is taxpayer monies, who cares?
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 08:44 AM
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16. well......i dont think it is a bad idea.
it is sounding if they are coming ot this that they are listening to the generals and the dems and repugs that are syaing, hey buds, we arent winning, and not going to win. we have to do soemthing. i dont think the foriegners should. but with this they are going to have to be pulling out. the insurgience isnt going to just say, k, you arent going to come after me, i will quit.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 04:14 PM
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18. It's not that it's a bad idea
It's that they described these people as terrorists and now want to offer amnesty. Whatever your political view, they are defending their country as we would ours if we were invaded. If Bush wasn't so hellfire bent on describing the people as insurgents and terrorists it wouldn't look so stupid now that they are offering to work with them.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 05:00 PM
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23. you are right on.
Edited on Tue Jun-14-05 05:05 PM by seabeyond
and they should have had this attitude, like two years ago. why this thing so didnt work out. they dont get any of this stuff. you dont go in and take over and tell everyone to do what you tell them to do. these asshole bushco's think they are all our patriarchic parent and we are children and we are going to just fall into line

of course in their arrogance they went in their and treated the citizens of iraq wrong. they had a year honeymoon to make iraq right.......and they did it wrong every step of the way and in greed, ergo the uprising
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 04:18 PM
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19. So long as they only deal with those who fought Americans, and didn't
kill other Iraqis, this is probably a good idea.

Bush will have to eat his rhetoric, which is an added blessing.

The most important things are to get our troops out of there and give Iraqis a chance at a stable, decent society.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 04:20 PM
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20. See 18
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 04:25 PM
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21. I agree. Part of the problem is that there's an insurgency/resistance
and there are also terrorists operating there.

People who shoot at US troops: Insurgents/resistance fighters (pick your terminology).

People who blow up Iraqi civil servants waiting to collect their paychecks: terrorists.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 05:00 PM
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24. Problem is knowing which is which
or even if they are the same. You can bet we don't know. I can't count how many troops I've heard interviewed that say 'they don't know who the enemy is'.

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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 05:15 PM
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26. That's very true. My cousin recently completed a tour in Iraq as a Marine
Their unit had one fatality--the unit commander.

Who killed him? An Iraqi National Guardsmen working with the unit killed him in a suicide attack.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 05:12 PM
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25. Should they appear with or without the heads of their victims?
This is so disgusting. WTF are we doing there in the first place?
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