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KlatooBNikto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 06:25 AM
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The Golden Goose has been killed.It ain't going to lay them golden eggs
again.

The years from 50 to 90 were the golden age of American prosperity when everything our corporations touched turned to gold and many of us were able to participate in that prosperity.

Those days have ended. The low hanging fruits have been picked clean and the same corporations are in a fight for survival.

The rest of the world now has too many well educated people willing to work for a fraction of our wages.They are hungrier.There will be no way for us to go back to the Golden Age.

There is no alternative but to get rid of our pride and join the human race so we can help share in the prosperity yet to come.That means war is out and peace is in.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 06:44 AM
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1. Not to mention Bush's pro-megacorp economy
discourages free enterprise and start-ups. Where's OUR killer apps? Where's OUR "PC"? When is OUR next great invention/life-changing tool/medical breakthrough/process going to happen?

Here's another problem: degree devaluation. It's looking to be that yesterday's high school diploma is today's master's degree because corporations won't even let your ass in the door without at least college under your belt. More and more, though, I'm seeing "MBA Preferred" for a lot of the upper level positions where you didn't need one before. And that's pretty sad.

What if some of us just don't WANT to continually go to school, school, SCHOOL? Who in the hell even has TIME for this? What do you do, sleep for 3 hours a night? I spend 12 hours a damned day away from home as it is, mostly at my job and studying new computer languages; (you know, because Willie Fucking Gates just doesn't have ENOUGH damned cash) I'm sorry, but I'm just NOT into the whole "going back to school" thing. Christ, it was boring and time-consuming enough the first time around, why isn't a damned plain ol' college degree enough anymore?

What's next, are we all going to need doctorates to compete with exploited Third World wage slaves?
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KlatooBNikto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 06:50 AM
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3. See Chalie Chaplin's Modern Times to get a feel for what is in store.
Charlie was not just a great comedian he was also a prophet. What he saw in the assembly line age has now come to Higher Education where you get higher and higher but nobody wants to hire you.

The word education has become meaningless,it is now a way for the powerful to make us feel inadequate and, so docile and compliant to their dictates.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 07:07 AM
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5. tell it hugh
Edited on Tue Jun-14-05 07:10 AM by marions ghost
:applause:

yeah welcome to the post-graduation extended nightmare where the 'next level' is always just out-of-reach...and hundreds apply for every measly job opening at the mill. After an expensive time-consuming education (with masters degree)you are only barely eligible to enter the fray. However I'm sure you could EASILY get a govt-sponsored job in Iraq.
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 07:27 AM
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7. What's wrong with that?
School, work, sleep. School, work, sleep. Maybe a little sex just for reproduction. Don't worry about spending time with your kids, the corporate grade schools will do just fine. Why else continue to lower taxes? Religion gets children young. Why not business?

Couldn't agree with you more though. Not sure what can be done to stop it, but I could not agree with you more.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 06:48 AM
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2. Funny how those CEO's still get fat on that low-hanging fruit.
It doesn't seem to keep the top 0.1% from doubling its share of the wealth.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 07:20 AM
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6. Try quintupling.
Amazing how all of them KNEW, starting in 1999, when to sell their massive amounts of stock and remain rich while telling the rest of us to hold, hold, hold . .. "this is only a teensy glitch, it'll go back up". PPPPFFFFFFT. They refurbished their penthouses with platinum while we got the shaftola.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 06:51 AM
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4. Like they do with Canada Geese, the Golden Goose's eggs have been oiled.
But our country is headed for greater wars to defend what's left.

And nuclear armageddon isn't out of the eqasion either.

The civilized world had better look at our country's actions of late. Conartist Rice calling N Korea's leader "not sane" while * goes around doing and saying things that raise the same point about himself.

Never mind the US telling other countries to re-do their voting systems because they're corrupt; while our country creates more crooked voting systems with judges and politicians not looking into the systems or, worse, openly supporting their flaws - which should be a crime against the very foundation of this country, filthy fascist swine.
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newportdadde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 07:48 AM
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8. There are still going to be golden eggs.
The difference now is there are much fewer to go around and we have not only fellow Americans but offshore etc competing for our eggs. Before there was always some place to go to during change, change expanded the total number of jobs. The buggy whip maker lost his job true, but the auto industry explosion created many times the number of new well paying(eventually) jobs. The labor was reallocated to more productive tasks.

In the 80s we started to see the blue collar worker under attack. People growing up in the 80/90s were told you need a college degree now so we got one. The blue collar workers were told "You must go back to school!" and they did and with the internet and technology boom, those jobs for some, not all but some were replaced, the economy boomed.

Now people like myself in IT watch as IT is slowly dismantled piece at a time to people we never see or if they are here undercut us to death. I have a family and a home but I can't compete with a guy living in an apartment with 5 other guys. Thats okay though I just wont spend as much and companies wonder "Why are sales sluggish?". Accounting is next, financing etc, if its done on a PC its inevitable.

Maybe there is a salvation industry somewhere coming to the US soon, much like IT a few years ago. As I look forward though at least right now I do not see it. What I do see is a rising of China and India living standards and a lowering of US living standards to meet somewhere in the middle.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 07:59 AM
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9. If there is a silver bullet, it better happen FAST.
Remember, the software/IT industry actually took decades to get where it is now, and that's considered quite fast compared to how long other industries took. We ain't got decades; there's only now, these depreciating wages, these devalued college degrees, the looming spectre of millions of low wage Third-Worlders and no new growth industry to cure any of it.
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