have the fascists essentially brought back the institution of slavery?

[mopaul]

i see them as boldly setting up their colonial, imperial vision of world domination and subservience. we have our material commodities made by 'cheap labor' which means millions of people all over the world working for slave wages, under slave conditions.

i am not attempting to cheapen the sufferings of all slaves, throughout history, not just the African American ones, slavery goes all the way back to the beginnings of humanity.

the PNAC plan is to supposedly stabilize the middle east with democracy/military action, but i think really it's about enslaving all so called third world nations.

Americans grow fat and lazy and stupid while invisible slaves make our lives luxurious and filled with greasy materialism. ever see that old silent movie "Metropolis"?

i believe these fuckers are actually bold enough to try to bring it back the way it used to be, only not as dramatic as with the African slaves. the new slavery is Mexican laborers, Taiwanese sweat shops, and Iraq, where soon everyone will work for haliburton or starve.

i believe if it didn't have such a stigma, the gop kkklansmen would seriously try to see slavery brought back from the dead.

[acmejack]

1. Do you really think Americans will be exempted?

Only the rich will be "freemen", we will be toiling along with the rest of the world's workers.

[marmar]

2. So true...

Look at Wal-Mart. You could argue that its employees are already in slavery, and that's BushCo's vision for every company.

[bryant69]

3. Not really the same

American workers get to vote (for now) so there is a limit to how far the big Corporations can go towards putting them in the same status as third world workers. That's not to say they shouldn't have things bettter, but to compare a guy working at Wal-Mart with a guy making Sneakesr in Southeast Asia, well, the comparisons don't line up, I don't believe.

Bryant
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[WhoWantsToBeOccupied]

12. We're "voting," not voting

Tens of thousands (hundreds of thousands) of DU posts have covered in incredible detail the absurdity of the past election's "results." And it was officially proven by political scientists and mainstream newspapers that Al Gore won Florida and the presidency in 2000 if the votes had been counted using ANY of the recount procedures under consideration. Ohio 2004 was a carbon copy of Flordia 2000 in terms of the election being stolen from the Dem candidate.

So you're living in a fantasy world if you think we're actually voting. We trudge to the polls and do something that resembles voting. But the result is fixed. Dick Cheney just said that any Republican presidential candidate in 2008 will defeat any Democratic candidate. How do you think he knows that?

[sweetheart]

4. Public awakening to the slavery meme

I've argued this for years here on DU, that the bush clan has reversed
the civil war, and has set about re-enslaving the planet. The raw
numbers of REAL slaves are greater than ever before in history, and the
military power is being used to extend monopolies and thier rule of
corporate law "without" national borders, that no person may oppose
the global plantation state.

Always someone replies that saying modern working conditions are akin
to slavery is an insult to slavery of old, as the workers of today are
not owned. I can't help but wonder if such persons have ever worked
2 minimum wage jobs to make ends meet.

The slavery meme is back, sugar coated for popular consumption, where
there is no choice to feed your family but to become part of a feudal
landlord's holdings and become owned.

[Theres-a]

8. I'm inclined to agree

Seems to me, the only way people can get by is having 2 low paying jobs,where the conditions are horrible,no benefits, and very poor quality of life when they aren't at work,due to rising costs of basic living expenses.(Which, if I am not mistaken,aren't included in inflation figures!)

[meow2u3]

9. Chattel slavery is not the only kind of slavery

where people are treated like, and regarded as, livestock. Slaves had the same legal status as animals: property.

Now, we're witnessing a resurrection of slavery that differs not in degree, but in kind. "Employees" may be paid, but not enough to live on without having to work two, sometimes three, jobs to make ends meet. On top of the rampant practice of overworking and underpaying employees, some employers have taken their slavedriving ways a step further, to the point of breaking the law: expanding their stranglehold over off-duty conduct protected by the First Amendment.

For people to be disciplined, even fired, for perfectly legal behavior that the boss doesn't like amounts to slavery, where the boss would have absolute power over the lives of their employees. And that, my friends, is unconstitutional, even criminal, in my book.

[patrice]

5. This will happen because they believe the Ends/Purpose

justifies the Means/How-something-is-done. So the dead from bombings today, 20+ or -, are acceptable sacrifice to . . . . ? The spread of World-Corp?

They are so completely dangerous because what they (most of them anyway) desire is what they call "good". I can't describe how they live with themselves and all of the DEATH they've cause Innocent people, but I do know that they also do this "We're helping them too . . . ." Evangelizing if you ask me. And no one can say the real good they've done is worth the fear, pain, emotional scaring, suffering, and death of another person. On edit : Which sometimes INCLUDES Racial Lynching justified by something called genetic "purity".

It seems there are many people who just do not value the Golden Rule. Do unto others as you'd like them to do/be to/with you. (Said Mrs. Do-As-You-Would-Be-Done-By to a school of freshly bathed Water Babies ((Charles Kingsley))).

On edit : It seems to me Right to Life ought to be saying something about the daily news of Un-necessary War Dead. What the Fuck DOES Pro-Life mean. They are such phonies if they can't even bring themselves to say something simple like :

Stop the Killing.

[DemBones DemBones]

11. Pro-lifers do say "Stop the killing."

But you don't want to hear that message directed at the abortion industry and its carefully cultivated mythology.

Many of us also oppose the current war but if you acknowledge that, you might have to acknowledge that we are not the stereotypes you want us to be.

[patrice]

14. I would like to credit what you've just said, but you begin by violating

the very thing that you say is your problem with me, "stereotyping", i.e. you begin by telling me what I think about you. You don'ta know what I think of you beyond this one thing, and You didn't ask me what I think of you.

You told me what I think of you; that's a stereotype, and as much as I'd like all of us to stop doing that, I question the leadership of anyone who demands an end to stereotyping while stereotyping me and many others whom you appear to assume that you already know what they think about you and the whole issue.

Judge not lest you be judged.

[Bridget Burke]

6. Some of their Dominionist cronies want to bring back real slavery.

The reinstitution of slavery appears to be a hot button item among Reconstructionists. We have received a few negative E-mails which complained that the movement does not recommend the resumption of human slavery. But we have received many more Emails from Reconstructionists claiming that legalizing slavery would be good for North America.

Read about The Plan here:

www.religioustolerance.org/reconstr.htm

[indepat]

7. Economic bondage if not slavery should there be a fine line

[meow2u3]

10. Slavery is slavery

I don't give a rat's ass whether they call it chattel slavery or economic bondage: slavery is slavery, no matter what goddamn euphemism Big Business comes up with to cover up this truth!

[Patty Diana]

13. Shit, the situation now is better than slavery for US Corps

they don't have to house us, feed us or keep us healthy. It our votes aren't counted how can we say we still have the vote? At least slave owners took some interest in their slaves wellbeing to protect their investments in those slaves--so slaves had value, we don't

[patrice]

15. We are entries in a ledger governed by religious fascists.

Who are drunk on materialism and end-times scenarios that give meaning to those who lack it.