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Streetdoc270 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 10:25 AM
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Anyone hear if this is true?

http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a1653.htm


June 12, 2005: “Here is an interesting attempt on the part of the Bush worshippers to dish the 22nd Amendment to the Constitution that limits a President to two terms:

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

February 17, 2005

Mr. HOYER (for himself, Mr. BERMAN, Mr. SENSENBRENNER,Mr. SABO, and Mr. PALLONE) introduced the following joint resolution; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary:

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JOINT RESOLUTION

Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the 22nd amendment to the Constitution.

Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled (two-thirds of each House concurring therein), That the following article is proposed as an amendment to the Constitution of the United States, which shall be valid to all intents and purposes as part of the Constitution when ratified by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years after the date of its submission for ratification:

`Article --

`The twenty-second article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States is repealed.'

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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 10:28 AM
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1. Let's run the Big Dawg against chimpy as many times
as we want, then.

He is still as popular as a rock star.
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MojoXN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 10:29 AM
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3. Bill wouldn't run again...
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MojoXN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 10:29 AM
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2. Read my write up...
About this very subject. Yes, it's true.

http://blogsdontexist.blogspot.com

Third post from the top.

MojoXN
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 10:31 AM
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4. Talk about crooked...
I doubt this is true though, or if so, that they'll succeed.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 10:35 AM
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5. And This Is Gonna Rush Through in 18 months???
Figure for this to be effective for Chimpster, this ammendment would have to pass through both Houses...the off to state legislatures where at least a majority would need to sign off on it before it become a law. Uh...I don't think so.

I'm in-between cups of coffee...but I'd bet this is or soon will be debunked at Snopes.

Bunnypants may be "loved" by his coven, but even they know that "love" is a mile wide and an inch thick. Plus there are too many other greedy politicians who want their piece of the brass ring...Bunnypants got his payoff...now it's their turn.
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MojoXN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 10:48 AM
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10. You forget about ratifying conventions...
I'm in the process of analyzing the demographics of the blue states, and their procedures for convening ratifying conventions. As it stands, this bill could potentially WALK through Washington. It would be up to the blue states to stop it. And don't think that this would work to our advantage. I doubt that former President Clinton would want to run again. This is real, the committee has a strong Republican majority, so does its Senate counterpart (though not as strong, still a majority). This is something on which to keep a VERY close eye.

MojoXN
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 10:58 AM
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11. If There Was Ever A Need For A Filibuster
And you know the call here would be louder than loud.

Yes, such a resolution could be rammed through the House...and I wouldn't put it past asshats like DeLay and Sesenbrenner along with their goons to do this as a diversion tactic for their own ethic problems.

However, once it hit the Senate, you'd need not 60, but 66 to move it on to the states. Does Frist have the 17 Senators (and that would include at least 10 Democrats) to move it on? Even with 60...that means 5 Democrats would have to cross over. Again, this is an ammendment to the Constitution...super-majority rules apply.

The only way Frist could get around that would be to pull the nuclear trigger and if you thought the verbage about revising Senate rules for Judges was wild, or that a Supreme Court justice would be even wilder...this would go off the radar.

Again...for this to be effective for *...this ammendment would have to be enacted at least 6 months before the 2008 elections, if not sooner. That's including next year's elections and who knows what other messes lie ahead. I'd check Snopes, this sounds like yet another red herring.
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Streetdoc270 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 11:09 AM
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14. found this
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=hj109-24

This information comes from THOMAS, the official source for the status of legislation

Introduced by a Dem no less....
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 11:19 AM
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16. Interesting And Strange...Not 1, But 3 Democrats
One is Frank Pallone who is one of DeLay's biggest critics. Hmmm.

As someone else has posted here, this could be another "feel good" bill that these guys will get some ink in the Congressional record and play with it at home (for what reasons with Democrats I have no idea...unless they are thinking a third Clinton term).

I remember how they were ready to start bulldozing Mt. Rushmore and IIRC someone introduced similar legislation during the second Raygun term, but there was a lot more media hype then (an supposedly the media was more liberal) than we're hearing now.

Still...why 3 Democrats? Any thoughts?
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 11:01 AM
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12. When they bring it to the floor
the dems ought to just sit down and laugh and laugh and laugh. Too many pubs are getting sick of dubya to want another 4 years of his antics.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 10:41 AM
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6. Loads of bills get proposed, few get out of committee.
But it makes for good reading in the little newsletters that Congressmen send home to their constituents.

This one hasn't even made it to markup yet, and it may never get that far.
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prodigal_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 10:43 AM
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7. It wouldn't apply to the sitting chimp
Funny though, since the 22nd was put in after FDR won 4 times.
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 11:05 AM
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13. But it could be used against the repuke nominee. A concerted ad
campaign saying, "The repukes have such a weak crowd of candidates, they are actually trying to repeal the 22nd Amendment".

Get's the "what a bunch of weakasses" theme going so the entire crowd od repuke hacks is knocked down a peg.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 10:43 AM
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8. We need to amend the 22nd Amendment to the Constitution .....
to include all members of Congress and the Judiciary
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emanymton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 10:44 AM
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9. Why Bother. Constitution Is Obsolete. No Need For Elections.
diebold will tally and tell you later.

Shades of Saddam Hussein's Iraq elections.



Bush Lied. People Died. Media Cheered.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 11:13 AM
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15. Big mistake if they do this: here comes Bill Clinton!
And the tradition with past amendments was to exempt current office holders from the provisions of the amendment. When the 22nd was passed, Truman would not have been affected, had he decided to continue to run in 1952. So, this needs to be amended to exclude Dubya from being able to run again. ;-)
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 11:26 AM
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17. Oddly, Barney Frank (gay Democrat from Massachusetts) was in favor of it
I haven't had a chance to follow-up and ask why.
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