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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 12:19 PM
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RUMMY is Live on MSNBC defnding Guantanamo - PRESS CONF.
Edited on Tue Jun-14-05 12:24 PM by cyberpj
He's going to take questions.
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 12:20 PM
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1. Can't stand his ugly lying face n/t
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 12:22 PM
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2. Showing video footage of humane treatment next to his face on-screen.
Saying some of those released so far have again taken up arms to kill innocent women and children.

He has no shame.

He can't stop using the phrase - "humane treatment"

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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 12:23 PM
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3. Traditional doctrines do not apply to this new situation. nt.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 12:24 PM
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5. Question from me
Aren't they suppossed to release those more graphic photo's sometime in the next couple weeks? Maybe that's why the big stink about how "good" it is there.
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 12:26 PM
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6. Yep. I'd say it's that AND the fact that there's a push to close Gitmo.
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 12:23 PM
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4. Now saying today is 230th birthday of US Army - Rah Rah
Support the Troops Jingoism!

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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 12:27 PM
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7. "Is there a crisis in recruiting" ? to Rummy
He's tap dancing.

The army is renewing efforts. Navy, Air Force and marines are fine.

Crisis is a journalists word, a headline word. We're trying to accurately describ what's going on - not make headlines.

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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 12:29 PM
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8. Gen. Peter Pace of Army -
The army has taken a leadership decision - it takes time for new recruiters to be trained and become effective.

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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 12:30 PM
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9. Rumsfeld - We're increasing size of Army so goals are higher.
Numbers of Navy and others were decreased.

Implies there is cross training going on and movement of some from one arm of service to the other.

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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 12:42 PM
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15. "Make the pie higher." - Kommander Kuckoobanannas
Follow the AWOL leAdeR
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 12:31 PM
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10. What's the advantage of keeping tthese remaining people at Gitmo?
No other appropriate facility.
The investment's been made.
Some differences referring to "location".


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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 12:38 PM
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11. He is one arrogant son of a bitch. I can't watch the man.
Edited on Tue Jun-14-05 12:45 PM by spanone
Lies He'll take questions, but you can bet he won't answer them.
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 12:39 PM
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12. Why isn't Peter Pace arresting Rumsfeld RIGHT NOW!
My God! Is Pace a traitor too!

He disgraces the uniform.

I wonder what Pace's job was on 9-11 when four seperate War Game scenarios were being simulated...


http://www.bcrevolution.ca/9_11_war_game.htm

“I have an on-the-record statement from someone in NORAD that on the day of 9/11 The Joint Chiefs of Staff (Richard B. Myers) and NORAD were conducting a joint, live-fly, hijack Field Training Exercise (FTX) which involved at least one (and almost certainly many more) aircraft under US control that was posing as a hijacked airliner”.
Mike Ruppert – June 5, 2004, editor of FTW www.fromthewilderness.com

On September 11, 2001, Richard B. Meyers, the acting Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, has thus far claimed he was in a meeting with Senator Max Cleland, and was “unaware” of the ongoing 9/11 attacks until after the Pentagon was struck.

Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld claims that he was in the Pentagon giving a lecture to members of Congress about the need for America to “be prepared for the unexpected” pertaining to future terrorist attacks. As the 9/11 plot unfolded, Secretary Donald Rumsfeld claims he was effectively out of the loop while inside the Pentagon until it was struck at 9:38 am. That comes from his testimony to the 9/11 Commission on March 25, 2004, while under oath.

On September 11, 2001, the Air Force was in its second day of annual wargame drills, titled VIGILANT GUARDIAN, designed to test national air response systems, which incidentally involved hijacking scenarios. In addition the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO) which is staffed by military and CIA personnel, and is in charge of most American spy satellites, was running a drill for the scenario of an errant aircraft crashing into its headquarters. NRO headquarters also happens to be located just four miles from Washington’s Dulles airport – where Flight 77 (the flight said to have hit the Pentagon) originated...

On March 25, when Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld testified before the Commission, not one question was asked with regard to the multiple wargames confirmed to have been in progress that morning. Why?



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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 12:40 PM
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13. "I Don't Do Timeframes" - says Rummy - when asked
when he will give details on what will be done to the people who broke the rules at Gitmo.

Now Rummy and the Gen'l disagreeing on numbers of Iraqi soldiers.

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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 12:41 PM
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14. Now he doesn't know that there's a Minister of Nat'l Security in Iraq
and asks the reporter for the name of the guy.

Says it doesn't surprise him that Amnesty for insurgents is being discussed.

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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 12:45 PM
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16. Last question - 2 years after...insurgency seems vibrant...what is
big picture assessment of activity.

How confident are you that there could be a real democracy in Iraq.

Pace - It's a fact that insurgency continues. Says there has been tremendous amount of progress. Iraqis must provide a level of security so that they can do what they need to do. The security situation is very important - don't chase the spikes and valleys of security situation.


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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 12:49 PM
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18. switching to cspan2 - Rumsfeld says Sunnis made a mistake by
not getting involved in election - Thank the good lord the kurds and others are reaching out to them.

It's difficult to find a piece of paper to unite these people instead of a dictator repressing them.

This is historic. A gigantic step forward, not to be dismissed or trivialized.

Will it happen? I think it will. Can I guarantee - no? No one can.

Then he ends it there and leaves.

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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 12:49 PM
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17. dumbsfeld doesn't impress me with his cutesy corporatespeak
derived bullshit, like "I don't DO (fill in the blank)" understatements.

Make no mistake, we are living through a very very dark period of history because of the decisions of know-it-all maniacs like that guy.
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