Matt PUDGE Doing What He Does Best: Sliming the MJ Victim

[UTUSN]

I won't link to the scumbag. He had pics of the victim, supposedly the day after the verdict, playing with a football, sitting on a ledge talking to a girl, and other such activities while the PUDGE angle is to contrast the D.A.'s words that he was having a hard time.

Meanwhile, the SHIAVO autopsy results are buried in a routine headline below, the surprise being that he's including it at all.

Hey, PUDGE, no pin-ups of Prince William lately?

[TwilightZone]

1. Ignore him.

I'll never understand why people get worked up about Drudge. The guy's a moron and a Republican shill. Ignore him.

If you're looking for Schiavo autopsy result info, go to any major news org's site. It's everywhere.

[UdoKier]

2. Actually, it's the MJ ACCUSER.

MJ was was found not guilty of all charges.

Although I agree it's totally inappropriate to show pics of an underage KID, esp. since he was probably put up to all this by an opportunistic mom.

[MadHound]

3. Thank you, that is an important distinction,

One that some people are unable, or unwilling to make. But it is the reality of the matter.

[noonwitch]

5. If he's not Jacko's victim, he sure is his mother's victim

Whatever happened to this kid, I feel sorry for him.

[UTUSN]

6. To #s 2&5: The Accuser IS mj's Victim. Thank You. n/t

[mopaul]

7. no no UTUSN, mj is the victim, git with the program

the rock star millionaire junkie is the real victim here, not some little hustler kid. (sarcasm overdose)

[UTUSN]

10. Thanks, mopaul, for Your Own Many, Legendary Threads

that drip intelligence and conviction. You are a pillar here.

[MadHound]

8. Can you prove that?

If you can, beyond a reasonable doubt, then there is a job waiting for you as a prosecuting attorney in Santa Maria. If not, then you are merely engaging in specualtion, gossip and innuendo.

[UTUSN]

9. I Am Not a Lawyer and Am Not in a Court. I don't Have to Do "Reasonable".

The legal game is its own thing. That the prosecuter could not do his job well enough, or was out-gunned, or was dealt the cards of a wacko witness AND a wacko JURY has nothing to do with the REALITY. Neither does the perpetrator's having been beaten by his father when he was a kid or his boo-hoo isolation. And pursuing kids, sleeping with them, and paying them off has nothing to do with gossip and innuendo. The man in the mirror knows.

[MadHound]

11. Well, actually yes, you do have to do reasonable friend

Otherwise what you are engaging in is gossip and innuendo. You are stating what is your own opinion as a fact, when it is truly unknown at best, and false at worst. If you engage too openly in such gossip and innuendo, you can be legally sued for slander and libel. After all, this is the land of innocent until proven guilty. Jackson was given a not guilty verdict, thus the presumption has to be his innocence.

As far as the "wacko" jury, what else can you possbily expect from them? This wasn't a case about whether or not Jackson is out there, we know that he is. The case was about molesting a young boy, and it had to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. Well, beyond a reasonable doubt got thrown out the window when it was shown that the mother was a shake down artist, and the alleged victim kept changing his story. The prosecutor also performed badly by grandstanding about all of these previous boys Jackson had allegedly molested, and then was caught flat footed when the defense trotted in those very same boys, all grown up, to testify under oath that Jackson hadn't molested them. It was a poorly put on case, and the verdict was inevitable, it had to be not guilty.

Now if you wish to speculate, or opine about such matters, fine, that is your right. However, both morally and legally, stating matters that concern somebody else as a fact, rather than your opinion is poor form. Legally, Jackson is now presumed innocent, and that is the fact. Everything else is opinion. The man in the mirror very well may know, but neither you, nor I, nor anyone else does. Thus, all you can speak to is your own opinion, but not the facts of the matter. It is an important distinction in our country, one I suggest that you observe. You never know, you too could fall on the wrong side of it someday.

[UTUSN]

12. By the Way, "Gossip" Has Nothing to Do with Your Implied "Untruth"

As I posted a jillion times back when Kitty KELLEY was frequently dismissed as a "gossip", the dictionary definition is replete with words like "intimate," "report," "facts," "personal," and "sensational"---and nary the word "untruth". That said, the REASONS I gave in my previous post are not gossip. Neither are the SPECULATION?(Ha!) of specialists who chart the patterns of pedophiles. That said, your opinions and mine don't have to satisfy one another. Guess what, I also believe O.J. did the deed and that the Shrubbites stole BOTH '00 AND '04, and that Shrub invaded Iraq to get out of his father's shadow and to wreak vengeance for his wimpy father---and I don't have to prove it.

*******QUOTE*******

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=gossip&x=19&y=17

Main Entry: 1gos·sip
Pronunciation: 'gä-s&p
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English gossib, from Old English godsibb, from god god + sibb kinsman, from sibb related -- more at SIB
1 a dialect British : GODPARENT b : COMPANION, CRONY c : a person who habitually reveals personal or sensational facts about others
2 a : rumor or report of an intimate nature b : a chatty talk c : the subject matter of gossip


********UNQUOTE*******

[UTUSN]

13. 2nd By-the-Way, I Was Posting about PUDGE, Not a MJ Thread

For anybody's information, I have Alerted every single MJ thread, every single Runaway Bride thread, and various varieties of Vanity threads --to increasingly small results, I might add. I did not intend to start a MJ discussion here. My interest is in slamming wingnut A-holes like PUDGE. Notice that SHIAVO is NOT on my list of Alerts.

[MadHound]

15. *Sigh*

Your original statement was that "The Accuser IS mj's Victim. Thank You." Do you have any proof of this? Not the alleged victim's words, or that of his mother's, for they have both been discredited in a court of law. I'm asking for real live proof here, eye witness testimony, some evidence, anything.

If you don't, the you are, by default, engaging in gossip. I'm not stating anything, nor implying anything about untruths etc. etc(where did that come from?). I am simply stating that you are engaging in gossip and rumor-mongering. Your own definition that you posted backs this up. Now then, you are free to post your own OPINION on the matter, but when you are stating that your opinion is fact, as you did in your OP, then you are opening yourself up to charges of slander and libel. Plain and simple.

Now then, before you go sinking even further into the deep end, don't start making assumptions about my opinions on various matters like OJ, MJ, and Bushco. You know what they say about ass-u-me don't you?

Cheers

[paula777]

16. Nicely said

[dogday]

4. He's a kid! What is he suposed to do? That is wrong, now that

Mother should go after Matt D......

[theboss]

14. Anyone who TiVoed or Taped the Bashir documentary has the pic

The kid is well-known.

[UTUSN]

17. Double Sigh. The Point Was Never the I.D. Picture

It was Matt PUDGE's scumminess in being snarky about displaying pictures of the VICTIM apparently NOT being "devastated" as the D.A. said he was after the outcome. Supposedly handling a football and sitting talking means he is NOT DEVASTATED.