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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:20 AM
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The Terri Schiavo FRAUD
Yesterday, I said I limit my posts on this kind of stuff. But, this is too big to be considered unimportant.

Far Rightists attempted to destroy the Judicial Branch of Government with the Schiavo Fiasco!

People were threatened with DEATH!

It was during this time and thanks to this fiasco that DeLay, Frist, and other members of the GOP tried to remove a large amount of power from the Judiciary, and I mean a LARGE amount.

Some people accuse the Schindlers of this. Well, I say "Cui Bono".

And the RW'ers planned to milk this thing as much as they could and they would profit the most from it.

FRAUD was committed when they made that edited video of Terri Schiavo, in which it looked as though she was responding to visual stimuli.

RW'ers such as Richard Mellon Scaife was tied to this, James Dobson is connected to this, and many other people are connected to this.
http://blog.bioethics.net/2005/03/have-conservatives-bought-bioethics.html

They KNEW that Terri Schiavo was dead, but they were going to go ahead with this anyway and lie.
People could have DIED.
Our Judiciary could have been DESTROYED.

When people commit crimes they are punished, it's time to punish the Far Right.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:25 AM
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1. Don't forget Dr. Frist's
ability to diagnose via videotape. But I guess he was absent from med school the day they taught how to recognize blindness. LOL
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:49 AM
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3. Sorry proud2blib...
Dr. Frist was too busy being blinded by his ideology.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 12:22 PM
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8. LOL
Edited on Thu Jun-16-05 12:22 PM by proud2Blib
I think he is blinded by more than just ideology. Stupidity comes to mind. :eyes:
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kittenpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:52 AM
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4. yes, he had no doubt that Terri was responding to VISUAL stimuli!
ha! More proof that just because Frist believes it, doesn't mean it's true.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:36 AM
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2. Here is the text of Public Law 109-3
An Act



For the relief of the parents of Theresa Marie Schiavo. <<NOTE: Mar. 21,
2005 - >>

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the
United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. RELIEF OF THE PARENTS OF THERESA MARIE SCHIAVO.

The United States District Court for the Middle District of Florida shall have jurisdiction to hear, determine, and render judgment on a suit or claim by or on behalf of Theresa Marie Schiavo for the alleged violation of any right of Theresa Marie Schiavo under the Constitution or laws of the United States relating to the withholding or withdrawal of food, fluids, or medical treatment necessary to sustain her life.

SEC. 2. PROCEDURE.

Any parent of Theresa Marie Schiavo shall have standing to bring a suit under this Act. The suit may be brought against any other person who was a party to State court proceedings relating to the withholding or withdrawal of food, fluids, or medical treatment necessary to sustain the life of Theresa Marie Schiavo, or who may act pursuant to a State court order authorizing or directing the withholding or withdrawal of food, fluids, or medical treatment necessary to sustain her life. In such a suit, the District Court shall determine de novo any claim of a violation of any right of Theresa Marie Schiavo within the scope of this Act, notwithstanding any prior State court determination and regardless of whether such a claim has previously been raised, considered, or decided in State court proceedings. The District Court shall entertain and determine the suit without any delay or abstention in favor of State court proceedings, and regardless of whether remedies available in the
State courts have been exhausted.

SEC. 3. RELIEF.

After a determination of the merits of a suit brought under this Act, the District Court shall issue such declaratory and injunctive relief as may be necessary to protect the rights of Theresa Marie Schiavo under the Constitution and laws of the United States relating to the withholding or withdrawal of food, fluids, or medical treatment necessary to sustain her life.

SEC. 4. TIME FOR FILING.

Notwithstanding any other time limitation, any suit or claim under this Act shall be timely if filed within 30 days after the date of enactment of this Act.

<[Page 119 STAT. 16>]

SEC. 5. NO CHANGE OF SUBSTANTIVE RIGHTS.

Nothing in this Act shall be construed to create substantive rights not otherwise secured by the Constitution and laws of the United States or of the several States.

SEC. 6. NO EFFECT ON ASSISTING SUICIDE.

Nothing in this Act shall be construed to confer additional
jurisdiction on any court to consider any claim related--
(1) to assisting suicide, or
(2) a State law regarding assisting suicide.

SEC. 7. NO PRECEDENT FOR FUTURE LEGISLATION.

Nothing in this Act shall constitute a precedent with respect to future legislation, including the provision of private relief bills.

SEC. 8. NO AFFECT ON THE PATIENT SELF-DETERMINATION ACT OF 1990.

Nothing in this Act shall affect the rights of any person under the Patient Self-Determination Act of 1990.

SEC. 9. SENSE OF THE CONGRESS.

It is the Sense of Congress that the 109th Congress should consider policies regarding the status and legal rights of incapacitated individuals who are incapable of making decisions concerning the provision, withholding, or withdrawal of foods, fluid, or medical care.

Approved March 21, 2005.

LEGISLATIVE HISTORY--S. 686:
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CONGRESSIONAL RECORD, Vol. 151 (2005):
Mar. 20, considered and passed Senate and House.

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Village Idiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:58 AM
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5. Gee - could this have been SOMEHOW tied...
to the "filibuster flap" over the opposition to the RW judicial nominees...

Interesting how this only come out AFTER the Senate confirms the worst of the * nominees...
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 12:01 PM
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6. You are exactly right
People should go to Jail for Fraud
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 12:06 PM
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7. They are still up to it.
The right wingers who advocated for Schiavo's parents haven't relented. Hannity and Scarborough are still questioning the decisions. Scarborough had terrorist bomb thrower Randall Terry on his show to dispute the autopsy results. He shut down arguments of resonable questioners.

--IMM
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 12:23 PM
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9. So Randall Terry
is an expert on autopsies now? LOL
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 12:56 PM
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10. I think he can also fly.
Ask him.

He reached his conclusion about the "autopsy fraud" by some convoluted logical process that I can't reconstitute.

--IMM
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