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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 07:56 PM
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US lied to Britain over use of napalm in Iraq war
US lied to Britain over use of napalm in Iraq war
By Colin Brown, Deputy Political Editor
17 June 2005


American officials lied to British ministers over the use of "internationally reviled" napalm-type firebombs in Iraq.

Yesterday's disclosure led to calls by MPs for a full statement to the Commons and opened ministers to allegations that they held back the facts until after the general election.

Despite persistent rumours of injuries among Iraqis consistent with the use of incendiary weapons such as napalm, Adam Ingram, the Defence minister, assured Labour MPs in January that US forces had not used a new generation of incendiary weapons, codenamed MK77, in Iraq.

But Mr Ingram admitted to the Labour MP Harry Cohen in a private letter obtained by The Independent that he had inadvertently misled Parliament because he had been misinformed by the US. "The US confirmed to my officials that they had not used MK77s in Iraq at any time and this was the basis of my response to you," he told Mr Cohen. "I regret to say that I have since discovered that this is not the case and must now correct the position."

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/story.jsp?story=647397

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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 07:58 PM
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1. more proof of lies
I feel like we should send this around - but to Congress, Senate or media?
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BayouBengal07 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 07:58 PM
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2. I had heard of this
I heard months ago that the US used napalm in Iraq. There was no attention or outrage.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 08:04 PM
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6. August 2003; US admits it used napalm bombs in Iraq
American pilots dropped the controversial incendiary agent napalm on Iraqi troops during the advance on Baghdad. The attacks caused massive fireballs that obliterated several Iraqi positions.

The Pentagon said it had not tried to deceive. It drew a distinction between traditional napalm, first invented in 1942, and the weapons dropped in Iraq, which it calls Mark 77 firebombs. They weigh 510lbs, and consist of 44lbs of polystyrene-like gel and 63 gallons of jet fuel.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/org/news/2003/030810-napalm-iraq01.htm

There was some outrage at the time. But it then dropped down the Memory Hole along with hundreds of other outrages.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 10:37 PM
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16. They were also used in the Sacking and Punative Obliteration
of Fallujah.
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 07:58 PM
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3. Jeezus how long does it take them to figure this out?
EVERYTHING Bush tells you is a LIE!
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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 07:59 PM
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4. Heartless fascists!!!!!
Those napalm weapons will cause those familes over 10 years of grief!!!!! Chemical weapons spread disease and destruction!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:


John Conyers, Gerold Nadler, John Duncan all of you must investigate these criminals and put them up on trial for WAR CRIMES of the century!!!!!!

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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wurzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 08:03 PM
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5. What we need is photographs.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 09:38 PM
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11. Graphic, here you go, new and improved

The bombs don't have fins so they are not very accurate, according to Independent story. And we know how accurate those with fins are.
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 10:31 PM
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13. Do you have one about the "Cluster Bombs" ?
might as well show that to ...

Wish I could get away with du babies People should look and absorb what the hell has happened and is happening.
Solidarity !
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 10:46 PM
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17. here, graphic warning
Edited on Thu Jun-16-05 10:51 PM by uppityperson

Did you try the test? It's easy, just pick the worst answers. What evil people they are. The "check your answer" part gives random results, so click on the "what are the correct answers" button to see how well you did.
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wurzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 07:47 AM
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19. Are these people Iraqis?
Remember that Vietnamese girl? I guess the media is missing a lot more than the DSMs. We see pictures of US soldiers, while the rest of the world sees pictures like yours. Why do they hate us?
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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 08:09 PM
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7. I sure like "lied" better than 'misled' or 'misrepresented'.
I also like 'conned' and 'deceived'.
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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 08:12 PM
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8. Lied and twisted....
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 08:14 PM
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9. What will our enemies rain down on Americans when they....
...have the chance, I wonder? There are some very terrible weapons of mass destruction that America has used in its wars against others. What goes around will eventually come around. That is the cosmic law I think.

<snip>
Iraq 2005
The End Game?
Iraqi resistance larger than US army

<snip>
The Animal Uncaged — By Manuel Valenzuela

Beyond the special effects, blazing pyrotechnics, elaborate sets of carnage, unremitting weapons imagery, fake blood, dramatized death and other Hollywood accessories used to condition and desensitize us to violence and warfare, only a very small fraction of Americans have ever experienced real war

<more and it's all here>
<link> http://www.thewe.cc/contents/more/archive2005/january/war_2005_january_images_1.html
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 08:30 PM
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10. kick
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 10:28 PM
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12. "US lied " shock oh shock !
Thank you for posting this very important article.
I can't imagine for the fucking life of me why Britain or anyone else with half a fucking BRAIN would ever believe anything about weapons use !
Depleted Uranium !!!!!!!!!
Too...
Thank goodness for this article !
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 10:32 PM
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14. oooohhhh reaaaaly???
you don't say, old chap? How did they think the U.S. melted, Faluja? With candles?
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 10:34 PM
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15. damn, I know it !
what took them so long ?
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:02 PM
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18. I just sent this to Dick Durbin!
Edited on Thu Jun-16-05 11:02 PM by in_cog_ni_to
I'm just sick. I hate these bastards. AND I DO mean HATE them! :grr:
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 07:51 AM
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20. you have no idea! I emailed it to everyone at AAR
and my local paper. I will forward it to my Senators and Congresspeople (Ginny Brown-Waite won't care).

This is evidence of yet another lie - I think it would be better to go at it from this angle instead of the straight horror angle. We are pushing the fact that the administration lied us into Iraq- this is more evidence of how corrupt and evil they are. How they feel that the ends justify the means.

Any thoughts?
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