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Tue Sep-23-03 05:38 AM
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all this talk of hillary being associated with clark only helps him in my opinion. because this is a primary, and although some may not like the clintons , they are liked by many democrats like myself. that's why hillary does very well in polls where her name is added among other democrats, and easily comes out on top. i'm not a clark supporter. i strongly support john kerry. but for those who support a candidate other than clark, trying to attack him by saying the clintons and especially hillary is "controlling" him only helps him.
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Tue Sep-23-03 05:59 AM
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1. "Hillary Clinton Hardly a Liberal Icon" |
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Tue Sep-23-03 06:39 AM
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7. i consider her an establishment pro-war centrist. |
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Tue Sep-23-03 06:17 AM
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2. Hillary voted for the Iraq War Resolution |
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but that's OK she helps Clark. Hillary helping on a campaign in 2004 is like asking Lady MacBeth to cook for you.
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Tue Sep-23-03 06:22 AM
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3. You are right. Wingnuts are miscalculating the Clintons' appeal |
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Edited on Tue Sep-23-03 06:23 AM by robbedvoter
and their endless blather associating the names only gives Clark recognition and approval. After 3 years of Jr people long for some Clinton "Machiavellic plans" And, yeah, I am pissed myself with Hillary's vote on Iraq, but you know what? Even in NY she's still very beloved. So, rant against them all you want, you know what the impeachment did to Big Dog's approval ratings!
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Tue Sep-23-03 06:26 AM
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4. The more they find out |
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the less appealing the picture. What you don't seem to understand is this attack will not only be launched from the Right, but the Left-activist Democratic wing of the Democratic party voting base, as well.
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Tue Sep-23-03 06:36 AM
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6. Is it the Left activist Democratic wing of the party? |
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Or those who have already thrown in with another candidate? Remember WHOMEVER wins the nomination will need the entire party's support. And don't forget anything thrown at Clark or any other Democratic candidate will stick to that candidate in the general election should he or she win the primary. Don't forget most of the attack's that Clark is taking come from the far left and the far right. . .it does not hurt him with the majority of the voters.
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Tue Sep-23-03 06:42 AM
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8. Sounded to me like pretty mainstream Right |
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on Tweety's show last night and "The Nation" which attacked ANSWER with red-baiting smears isn't exactly the anarcho-militant Left.
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Tue Sep-23-03 06:26 AM
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5. It may help him in the primary. . . |
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but it will kill him in the general election. IF she is indeed connected or seen to be some kind of manipulator-behind-the-scenes, there will be droves of Clinton haters who will flock to the polls. Now, of course, they never would vote Dem, but they WOULD stay home, especially the far Christian right who aren't that happy with Bush. They are getting increasingly strident because, despite having control of all 3 branches of government, there has been no definitive furtherance of their agenda. They were very upset that Bush didn't publicly and explicitly support Rick Santorum. A group of prominent far Christian right leaders have threatened to tell their followers to stay home if Bush doesn't get in line on social issues. But if there is even a whiff of a Clinton-is-behind Clark, come the general election, they will crawl over broken glass to vote "against" her.
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Tue Sep-23-03 07:34 AM
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9. Clinton Haters go to polls - so what - an empty threat as they go anyway |
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One more piece of nonsense from the Wall Street Journal/Spectator/Fox/Rove/GOP/Scafie funded think tanks.
Hillary is only a positive, as is Bill, to a Democratic party menber running for office.
Now your local media will find you a nut if you say nice things about the Clintons - the GOP controlled media does not get off the current Rove page of instructions by itself - but if you already have a bit of local reputation, it matters not.
It is a bit like saying that Hate talk radio will hate you more if you back a large tax increase on the rich rather than a small tax increase on the rich.
:-)
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