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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:56 PM
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Has anybody seen the angel of death hovering over the GOP
tonight? I'm thinking after the historic events of today that the GOP will die as a party. The honest conservatives will probably form a new party. I'll bet they quietly are already in talks about it. By the 2008 elections I think you will see them put up a presidential candidate to run against Jeb or whoever. Anyone else getting these vibes?
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cry baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:58 PM
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1. I think they are sure getting kicked in the nuts...
I'm hoping for this trend at least until after the 2006 elections. Then momentum through 2008. I don't think the repubs will ever go away.
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kittenpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 12:12 AM
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8. by the angel of death? sweet!
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cry baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 12:14 AM
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9. nice visual, huh!
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:59 PM
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2. Then what'll happen is they'll split the vote.
Maybe we should run Hillary.O8)
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:59 PM
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3. Winged chap? A bit gaunt?
Yes, I might have seen him hovering off in the distance a bit.

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NeoTraitors Donating Member (351 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 12:00 AM
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4. Totally getting those vibes!
I have been on other sites with both dems and repubs and the best that they can come up with is 'Politics Free Friday' tomorrow! Some of the Neocons are finding that regular repubs are getting pissed off too. And damn it they should!
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LuPeRcALiO Donating Member (587 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 12:05 AM
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5. Over the Bush administration definitely.
Over the GOP, hard to say, but I've seen it flickering a few times since November. I won't waste any tears on either one.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 12:11 AM
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6. Yep
Other people in the past have posted similiar feelings but I never felt it really big like I am now. I'm more hopeful and happy and excited. I can only hope. My only fear is Bush will do something like last time his raitings were like this. :\
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LuPeRcALiO Donating Member (587 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 12:20 AM
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12. that would be convenient, wouldn't it.
And I wouldn't put it past them. Boston, no doubt.
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 12:11 AM
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7. Please. Get a hold of yourself.
I'll be happy if this leads to Bushco's demise, and even that's a bit of a long shot with our whore media, but the whole GOP?

Hell no. There are tens of millions of lemmings who sit on the edge of their seats waiting for the 700 Club and Fox News to tell them what to think.

There is thirty years of unbridled corruption and treason in the republican party. Why the hell would this war somehow make the difference? They LOVED Reagan & Ollie North for selling WMD to our terrorist Iranian enemies, remember? THEY ARE FUCKED IN THE HEAD, DON'T YOU GET IT YET?
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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 12:16 AM
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10. Look if the GOP dies....
Its good for the whole country. It's always been corrupt and there needs to be a very very sound alternative party. Maybe a reformed "nader" like party and an end to the republican party.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 12:23 AM
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13. Oh I get it and that's my point.
The lemmings will be lost when the rapture doesn't happen, when we leave Iraq without Osama (don't ask), when they finally realize they have been lied to. (They will.) They will be looking for a new messiah then. The leaders of the GOP (not the PNAC)know now that they have been infiltrated and taken over by a very weird group and they can't ignore them anymore, nor can they walk in lockstep with them in the future.

The weird group will never let go, so the only logical thing the honest Republicans can do is leave the GOP. But we really don't want them joining us with their conservative ideas. We already have Joe Lieberman for that. So they need to form a new party and I hope they welcome Joe and the DLC in to it. This will hopefully have the effect of making the GOP fade into obscurity and impotence, kind of like an old geezer with too much money, whom everyone is hoping will die.
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nittygritty Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 12:18 AM
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11. Check out this AOL poll!
Do you think the U.S. should have gone to war in Iraq?
No 86%
Yes 14%
What do you think about the use of intelligence in the run-up to the war?
The White House stretched the truth 58%
A combination of flawed and misused data led to the war 29%
The White House got flawed intelligence 9%
The intelligence was fine, and it was used properly 3%
Total Votes: 19,984

:wow:


Still going, I think:
http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20050616134009990006
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 12:25 AM
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14. Wow,. Isn't AOL mostly conservative?
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nittygritty Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 01:59 AM
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15. you'd think, yes...
Edited on Fri Jun-17-05 02:04 AM by nittygritty
but lately everytime i see a story about * on AOL's welcome page that has a link to 'discussion', I check it out and it's ALL * bashing, like 95% of the posts are libs bashing BuShitler and the rest (5%) are repugs and dumbfucks supporting him.

Also, all the AOL polls as of late are always hugely negative towards the Chimp (as they apply).

I don't know if this is any indication of a shifting as it's only been of late that I pay attention to these AOL discussions and polls...

maybe it is now that i think about it: just remembered that the whole reason I stopped visiting the discussion boards and polls was they seemed to side with Fuckface and the neoCONS all the time!

one of those "hmmmmm.......oh, yeah! Now I remember!" moments...

:shrug: :think:


on edit: which reminds me-here is an update and a link to the AOL story and poll:

Do you think the U.S. should have gone to war in Iraq?
No 86%
Yes 14%
What do you think about the use of intelligence in the run-up to the war?
The White House stretched the truth 59%
A combination of flawed and misused data led to the war 29%
The White House got flawed intelligence 9%
The intelligence was fine, and it was used properly 3%
Total Votes: 21,460
Note on Poll Results


Democrats Hold Hearing on 'Downing Street Memo':
http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20050616134009990006
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 02:03 AM
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16. anyone who is remotely truly conservative
must hate the bushturdgang, the neotheocons and their cabal more than anything
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 02:13 AM
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17. I've said it in the past
this will be the death knell of the GOP... they will go the way of the Whig party... and it will take just as long... and for almost the same reasons

(free virtual lollipop if you get the allusion)

It is also the death knell of the US as a world super power, which is tied to the death knell of the GOP...
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 02:16 AM
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18. You know I think we are better off not being a super power.
It'll make us mind our manners better. I also don't think it will be an economic set back for us rank and file. It will be the mega-corporations that will get deflated and I don't think we will miss them in the long run.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 02:25 AM
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21. Oh that is a whole different matter
but it IS the GOP the one leading to this state of affairs, make sure you mention this often, especially with the pro defense jingos who have served zero days in the military, and who swallowed the kool aid
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 02:19 AM
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19. Yes, I've been feeling those vibes for the past couple of weeks...
...and today even more strongly--but it didn't just start today.
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 02:20 AM
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20. I think it's the over way around...
I think the Fundies and Neo-Cons are the ones who will break off and start their own party; I expect this to happen by 2008..
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