Ignoramus
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Fri Jun-17-05 12:27 AM
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jon stewart doesn't know what an analogy is |
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There can be a point in comparing someone to Hitler.
Hitler should represent a historical lesson that is invoked often and widely. The point is to never let it happen again, not to glorify his victims status as most victimized. The holocaust should not be "cherished".
Moral equivilency is absolutely a good thing to promote. Being more moral than someone is not an excuse. If you have sinned less than someone it is not an excuse to cast the first stone, so to speak.
Everone is good, only actions are good or bad.
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Fri Jun-17-05 12:30 AM
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1. I just watched it, and I agree with the OP (original poster) here. |
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Edited on Fri Jun-17-05 01:17 AM by Maat
For example, I find it very educational when someone digs up a quote that sounds very similar to what Dubya has said; later, I find out it was Hitler.
I feel that it is very important that we be aware of potential signs of totalitarianism.
Maybe if the Germans, as a whole, had been more aware earlier, then the whole course of history could have changed.
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Fri Jun-17-05 12:30 AM
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I think if someone commits enough evil actions then they are evil.
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Ignoramus
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Fri Jun-17-05 12:43 AM
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7. I agree with not always, not with never |
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If someone says Dean is like Hitler because he yelled, that's a really stupid analogy. It's not wrong because Dean himself is not actually Hitler, it's a valid form of analogy, it's just a stupid analogy.
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Fri Jun-17-05 12:32 AM
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3. I do think the comparison gets thrown around too much n/t |
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Fri Jun-17-05 12:37 AM
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4. Not enough in terms of **. He's already sucessfully killed over |
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100,000 people. Bombing them, napalming them, Depleted Uranium, torture, disappearing people. You get the picture........
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Fri Jun-17-05 12:49 AM
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9. I won't argue when it comes to bush's crimes |
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I don't see a reason to use it when both sides are fighting over filibusters or something as unequal as that.
Fascist needs used more. Example: Sensenbrenner and his oppression of the truth.
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Fri Jun-17-05 12:39 AM
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they have lost it ever since the horsejacking joke. I think Jon got his ass spanked.
Now they have pro war jackasses on for guests...
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GirlinContempt
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Fri Jun-17-05 01:08 AM
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Not someone that disagrees with you!
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Jane Austin
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Fri Jun-17-05 01:47 AM
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14. What was the horsejacking joke? |
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Fri Jun-17-05 02:47 AM
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15. they retold the laura bush joke about W milking a male horse |
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and they made it into milking two horses and he wanted to bathe in a bucket of horse spew.
after that, the show went into reruns for two weeks and came back balanced.
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Telly Savalas
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Fri Jun-17-05 07:41 AM
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20. And the Man also used a time machine... |
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to go back before the election to plant guests like Paul Wolfowitz to make it look like nothing has changed.
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GirlinContempt
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Fri Jun-17-05 12:42 AM
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On the comedy channel. Doing comedy.
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mcctatas
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Fri Jun-17-05 12:45 AM
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8. I agreed with John Stewart... |
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The vile repukes throw it around all the time, and it always reaffirms my belief that they have no credibility and would rather inflame people than focus on the issues. It lessens the validity of an argument and alienates those who don't necessarily agree with your POV. Even if there is a parallel to be drawn, if you preach to the choir (dems), you can turn off others who are starting to see the truth.
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Fri Jun-17-05 01:00 AM
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10. He kicked GOP ass tonight with the bit re: Gitmo food... |
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all the other evils done there are wiped away because...we serve prisoners glazed chicken!!!
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Fri Jun-17-05 01:11 AM
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12. It is the propaganda that is the comparison point to the Nazis? |
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We didn't witness soviet propaganda? We are familiar with the Nazi kind.
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EFerrari
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Fri Jun-17-05 01:11 AM
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13. Jon knows what an analogy is and better, he knows what a |
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punchline is.
Geeze, we get 'way too serious 'round here. :)
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Fri Jun-17-05 02:56 AM
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16. As someone that does fear for the Daily Show, I actually think |
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I was worried for nuthin'. Tonight rocked, I think Jon has a method to his RW guest madness. All week long he had different guys on talking about different countries we need to invade, but if you look at all of the interviews ALL the guests said the exact same fucking things, furthering the point that Bushco exaggerated and lied us into this war.
Jon has been saying that all along, I think he doing just fine.
I'm over it, Jon will never leave us. Jon always has been and will always will be a good guy.
I guarantee that his son's future is what he thinks about the most.
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Fri Jun-17-05 09:22 AM
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21. About 99% of all the comedians I know belong to the librul |
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eleet. And they all wonder who gave Leno and Miller their lobotomies. :hi:
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Fri Jun-17-05 03:26 AM
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17. Most Ironic User Name Ever |
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Truly.
The voter over the filibuster was not like the Holocaust. Get over it.
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Fri Jun-17-05 03:27 AM
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Fri Jun-17-05 03:32 AM
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Jon Stewart, even as a comedian, sees that the constant comparison of Hitler waters down just what that SOB did! Then, you go on to say..."The point is to never let it happen again, not to glorify his victims status as most victimized. The holocaust should not be "cherished"." You actually think Jews use the Holocaust to "glorify" ourselves?! That we "cherish" what happened?! Did you mean to say this?
Hitler was trying to wipe out an entire religion! He almost succeeded! We still have not recovered to our pre-war numbers, but that is just us "playing the victim card," right?
Moral equivalency can be a good thing to promote, if it is accurate! If I shoot someone to death, is it the same as if you flay your victim, carve out his eyes, and drown him in his own blood? Both are just as dead. But who is the bigger monster? Are they equivalent? What about motive?
Someone may be on the way to being a Hitler-like person, but, G-d forbidding, that will never happen again because we can say they are are showing the signs of becoming Hitler, but they are not Hitler!
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