Fox Signs Wesley Clark as Military/Foreign Affairs Analyst

[Modem Butterfly]

http://www.baltimoresun.com/features/lifestyle/bal-to.people16jun16,1,6460826.column?coll=bal-artslife-today&ctrack=1&cset=true

Fox News Channel has signed Gen. Wesley Clark as a military and foreign affairs analyst, Bill Shine, senior vice president of programming, said yesterday.

Clark, briefly a candidate in the 2004 Democratic primary before throwing his support behind Sen. John Kerry, said, "I am excited by this opportunity to ... offer my perspective to the important issues facing the United States and the global community."

Clark spent more than 30 years in the U.S. Army where he rose to the rank of four-star general and NATO Supreme Allied Commander from 1997 to 2000. Clark holds a master's degree in philosophy, politics and economics from Oxford University where he was a Rhodes scholar.

[LightningFlash]

1. I don't believe anything will come of it..

Clarke has seemed like a "red dog" ever since he started meeting with neocons....I don't think this will make any difference for Faux News, and the ratings will just keep falling.

Clarke may be anti-war but I never saw him as a moderate or liberal. He's just go along with whatever comes.

[Clark2008]

3. Obviously you never paid attention to him, then.

Because he's the most liberal of all the 2004 primary candidates. Hell, even Kucinich's staff was praising his tax plan the other day. Geesch.

[LightningFlash]

4. Umm pardon my french but so is Alan Colmes....

Once Sean Hannity is in the picture, they don't do anything. Hell they hardly even speak out.

Until Faux News fires Sean Hannity once and for all or cuts his programs, it will continue to fall like an anvil.....THUD.

The idiot is immature and doesn't even represent the view of conservatives. He yells all the time so "good old" Clarke will never even get hardly a word in....Unfortunately.

[Clark2008]

5. Who the hell is "Clarke," anyhow?

Do you mean Richard Clarke?

Or Wesley Clark?

And, Clark did just fine last night against Sean (did you see it?): he stuck to his guns, refused to condemn the military, wouldn't get sucked into a pissing contest about Durbin, told Sean this war is making the rest of the world hate our troops ("they're NOT Nazi's") and he told Sean that we have to properly train our troops and that INCLUDES obeying the Geneva Convention.

[Clark2008]

2. This has been hashed and rehashed on three threads already.

Clark will not be muzzled.
This is a good thing.
He's taking the message to moderate Republicans and Southerners and mid-Westerners who have no choice but to watch Faux News because it's on in their salons, repair shops, restaurants and bars.

[flordehinojos]

6. wesley clark is simply returning to his soul to his republican roots,

it seems to me. (i always had trouble believing his conversion as a Democrat to the Democratic Party).

[trumad]

7. I'm stunned by what I am reading her in this thread

And I thought DUers were up on their politics.

[LightningFlash]

8. Well I never believed Clark was actually not a conservative.

I watch him closely and he is not the opposition to Sean Hannity one would be expecting. Hannity may be loud but he has never had someone who can shout over him.

[Clark2008]

10. Some people apparently are hypocriticial.

They condemn those who believe liberal stereotypes while believing in conservative ones, themselves.

Yes, posters, there are liberals in the military.

[NuttyFluffers]

20. it's just a lot of FUD to me.

we've been getting quite a bit of it recently.

call it diversity, call it what you will... i have my opinions.

[Clark2008]

9. Conversion from what. exactly?

Clark was an Independent. Hell, *I'm* an independent. In the South, one needn't register with a party to vote in a primary. You just tell the election folks in which primary you intend to vote. Clark voted for Republicans when I was a kid. Big fucking deal.

Clark has voted Democrat since Clinton and registered AS a Democrat in 2002 just before he voted in a primary there and after he left the military, where he couldn't (or shouldn't) sign onto one political party. He busted his hump for Cleland. He busted his hump for Kerry. He's taking his message outside of the Dem base to the very folks who need to hear it - the Faux News viewers who don't know they're being sold a bill of goods.

Looks to me as though you're a Sharpton fan, given your avatar. I rather suspect you need to ask the good reverend if Clark's a Democrat and he'll praise him to the heavens. I know because *I've* talked to Sharpton about Wes.

And, if you took the time to read any of his position papers, watched any of his speeches or spoken with the man for five minutes, you'd know how very liberal he is.

The reason it's perfect that he's on Faux is because people - like yourself - can't get over the four stars and still THINK he's a moderate or a conservative. This is exactly what we need. Someone who the conservatives won't shut off because they think he's a liberal right off the bat. They'll actually sit and listen to Clark on the one hand, while they bash the more moderate H. Clinton, Dean or Edwards for being too liberal on the other. The Dems couldn't ask for a better scenario to get their message out.

Or, are you afraid to grow the Dem base?

[in_cog_ni_to]

17. Clark voted for CLINTON...TWICE, voted for GORE

and voted for Kerry. What the hell more do you want? The man has spent the last 3 years doing NOTHING but supporting the Democratic Party. He campaigned his ass off for Kerry. He traveled around the country holding Kerry fundraisers, helping Dem Senate and Congressional candidates all around this country. :wtf: do you want from the man??? His blood too? I don't like his new FAUX propaganda network deal either, but I sure as hell won't abandon someone who has done so much for this party. He's no republican and never has been...he voted for Nixon..... BIG FUCKING DEAL!....so did a LOT of people on this site. MANY have seen the light. Your slam on Wes Clark is uncalled for..... He has done so much for the Democrats and it's unfair. IMCPO

[bowens43]

11. 'Anything for a buck' Clark.

Always the opportunist. Never far from his neo-con roots.

[trumad]

12. Neo-Con roots? what the fuck are you talking about?

I've followed Clark from his Clinton days and I've seen him speak several times. The dude has serious hatred for the Neo-Cons and what they've done to the military.

Cheap shots abound in this thread by folks who haven't a clue what they're talking about.

[LightningFlash]

13. I think the point is he's not a progressive no matter how he votes. n-t

[Clark2008]

22. I think the point is that your sorely misinformed. n/t

[in_cog_ni_to]

15. Do you have a "Clark Alert Thread Buzzer" on your computer?

Or what? You ALWAYS show up on these threads.....just in time to bash Clark. Clark was never a neo-con and you know it.

[KharmaTrain]

14. Clark Is Not Colmes...

Without his Faux gig...colmes would be emceeing the borscht eating contest at Coney Island. He sold out for some of Rupert's gold to be Hannity's butt boy.

Clark is different. First, I've seen him stand up to Hannity and the others and do so very well. Clark needs a forum to speak out against this war and this is as great a forum as I can think of. He's an elephant in the tent. This network is already top heavy with wingnut generals and military types who keep saying how great the invasion is...here's a chance to say no it isn't...and Clark will do so. Is Hannity gonna dare question his credentials on these matters?

As far as if Clark is a "real" Democrat or not...I didn't know one had to be born this way. I've heard the General many times and he speaks as genuinely as any Democrat and says more of the right things than the wrong ones.

Yes, this is an opportunity to expand the Democratic base. He'll be reaching into a lot of homes...not only of wingnuts, but of the quiet wife or liberatarian or disgruntled conservative who may be that one or two votes we really need in a red state next year.

[July]

16. I like Clark, but NFW I'm turning Fox on to see him. nt

[in_cog_ni_to]

18. Me either!

and I LOVE the man! :loveya: I DETEST Faux Propaganda network AND Murdoch! I will NEVER allow that network on my TV...never, ever, ever.

[PATRICK]

19. Get your enemy closer

But who is playing who? Clark's bluntness staggered traditional news reporters. The silent treatment then closed in. They want to put him under the microscope for experimentation, discredit him with liberals(lit him constantly against the Dean boycott), because they fear the bloodshed to come may open up his candidacy wide.

IF the ex-general is not aware of the tactical mind of the enemy he does not have much time for an education to show himself up to the political challenge.

[in_cog_ni_to]

21. He was the ONLY Primary Candidate to take on FAUX propaganda

reporters! He didn't take one bit of their crap and was always ready for it (especially the FAUX people). He threw it right back at them and set them straight WITH THE FACTS every time.