Do You Support * or The Troops?

[stopbush]

Because it's one or the other.

Vote below:

[jojo54]

1. No Brainer

Support the troops because chimpy was the one who got them in Iraq by LYING!

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

4. What does Terri Schiavo have to do with our troops?

:evilgrin:

[Radio_Lady]

17. "Support Our Troops -- Bring Them Home in One Peace!"

A girl from Aloha, Oregon, painted this message on her family's fence. I thought it was brilliant.

Article 1 of 5 from the Portland Oregonian
January 19, 2005
IN LIEU OF VOTE, ALOHA TEEN GETS HER VIEWS ACROSS This week, Washington, D.C., will be awash with signs and banners supporting the president and his policies as George W. Bush takes office in a $40 million ceremony that some critics have called more coronation than inauguration.

But there is a very important sign President Bush will never see, because his motorcade won't get within 2,500 miles of Aloha. That is where Maureen McMahon and her friends have expressed their own thoughts for the second-term president. (rest of the article costs money, sorry...)

[Kazak]

2. Did you post this poll at the right site?

:crazy:

[wuushew]

3. I really can't support anyone who joined after the final weapons report

other than poverty, why would anyone join the armed forces knowing that the mission and rationale for our current foreign policy is based on lies and immoral U.S. hegemony.

[Casandra]

6. I agree

The troops are the 'arm' of *. How can we support either one? The only real way to support the troops is to BRING THEM HOME NOW! Until then, it's clearly impossible to separate (for the most part) the troops (the instrument) from the (command) *'s policy.

I look forward to bringing them home and let them get on with HONORABLE endeavors! I look forward to feeling PRIDE again, in our country.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

7. Nor can I support anyone who followed orders by using napalm

and committing torture.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

11. How many of those folks who joined after the final weapons report....

...knew anything about that report or what it meant? Where were they supposed to find that information in a mainstream media obsessed with aiding and abetting the NeoCon Junta's rush to war?

And if I remember correctly, the smoking gun highlighting the NeoCon Junta's lies, namely the DSM and the documents supporting that memo, wasn't made public until just a short while ago.

[Deja Q]

5. "You can support the troops without supporting the president."

Hey Trent Lott, go enlist yourself. If you can make the comment in 1998, I sure as hell can make it in 2005.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

8. Supporting the Troops doesn't mean supporting how you use the Troops

I don't support the mission, especially when it's a capricious elective mission to advance a political agenda directly from the PNAC playbook.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

9. Neither. The troops are the enforcers of Boobya's policies.

"Support the Troops" is republicanese for "Support the War".

[iconoclastic cat]

10. We need to take that rhetoric back. Supporting the troops is supporting

the working women and men of this country, not the ruling elite.

[wuushew]

12. kick

:kick:

[stanwyck]

13. Once again, from one of the Moms

My son is a Marine sniper on his second tour in Iraq. He joined the Marines, I believe, because he knew he would be a successful Marine. He was not a successful college sophmore. He is, by nature, gentle and easy-going. Ironically, these attributes may help him succeed as a sniper. Snipers generally are able to slow their heartbeats so they can shoot more accurately.
He was more suprised than anyone to find out he is an excellent marksman. He was raised in a home without guns. He was most worried before going to boot camp about his lack of knowledge about weapons. He thought he would fail at the shooting range.
My son played club and school soccer for 12 years and never received a yellow or red card...his coaches wished he had. But he has a non-aggressive nature.
He's doing the job he was assigned to do. He hides for hours waiting for a convoy to be attacked. It's his job to look for anyone who would leave explosives for the supply trucks. He used to be in a two-man team, but since the troops are stretched so thin, he's usually by himself and he usually spends hours hidden, just looking and waiting.
His twin sister is very much the anti-war activist at her college. Both brother and sister voted for Kerry.
My husband and I raised our son and daughter to make their own decisions. We support them.
I understand your difficulty with this war. We share the same concerns.
Just remember, you would not want to be summarily categorized as narrow-minded. Or cowardly. Or weak. Adjectives some use to dismiss those who oppose this war.
So perhaps you shouldn't summarily caterogize all the young men and women in the military according to an interview with one individual.
They are not better than you because of what they do. But neither are they worse than you.
They are individuals. And many hold very similar political views to those of us here.
Try to remember this.

[Touchdown]

14. Wuht a byassed pole! U must bee a libuurl Murka hate4r

:evilgrin:

[jokerman93]

15. Meaningless question

The word "support" is content-free and undefined in this context -- except that if you don't "support" _________ (fill in the blank), then you are a traitor and terrorist sympathizer.

The entire question of this content-free support should be tossed out as the specious manipulative crap it really is.

[stopbush]

16. Uhh, that's the point!

[jokerman93]

18. yeah

I'm just playing echo here. What a dystopian bad dream we're all in...