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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 11:41 AM
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Michael Smith (DSM Journo) Wanted us to see full report from Times.
Michael Smith the breaker of the DSMs wrote me back again last night and gave his permission to spread the full article around. It is standard procedure to cut a piece to fit the front page, so there wasn't any hanky panky going on they just couldn't do the whole piece on the front. Please note this piece is slightly different and longer than the published one.

If you like what Michael has been doing for us in our struggle, write to his bosses here.
foreignletters@sunday-times.co.uk
if you want to help generate revenue for this paper, click on some of their ads on the same page of Michaels latest article here
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1660300,00.html
finally Michael is studious in his regard to answering personal email,
Michael.Smith@sunday-times.co.uk
I'd reccomend keeping it short and letting him know he doesn't need to reply if he's overwhelmed, I've been remiss in doing this myself and plan on being better at it in the future.

Here's the article in full, with permission from the author, thank you very much Michael...


By Michael Smith

A DRAMATIC increase in US and British attacks on Iraq’s air defences in May 2002 “to put pressure on the regime” was illegal under international law, according to leaked Foreign Office legal advice.

The deliberate decision to use “spikes of activity” to goad the Iraqis into reacting and giving the allies an excuse for war was disclosed in the so-called Downing Street Memo, published by the Sunday Times shortly before the General Election.

It has since become a cause celebre in the United States with Democratic congressmen claiming last week that the evidence it contains is grounds for the impeachment of President Bush.

The memo recorded the minutes of a meeting of Tony Blair’s war cabinet held on 23 July 2002, quoting Geoff Hoon, Defence Secretary, as saying that “the US had begun ‘spikes of activity’ to put pressure on the regime”.

MoD figures for bombs dropped on southern Iraq, obtained by the Liberal Democrats through Parliamentary Written Questions, show that the “spikes in activity” began in May and that despite Hoon’s claim, the RAF was just as involved as the Americans.

But the Foreign Office legal advice appended to the Cabinet Office briefing paper for the July meeting made it clear that allied aircraft could only patrol the No-Fly Zones in order to deter attacks by Saddam’s forces on Iraq’s Kurdish and Shia minorities.

They had no power to use military force to put pressure of any kind on the regime because the resolution authorising their deployment did not allow the use of military action to enforce its demands.

The increased attacks on Iraqi installations, which senior US officers admitted were designed to “degrade” the Iraqi air defences, began in May, six months before the UN passed resolution 1441, which the allies say authorized military action.

Lord Goodhart, Vice-President of the International Commission of Jurists, and a world-renowned expert on international law, said that if it were true that the “spikes of activity” were designed to put pressure on the regime, they were illegal.

UN Resolution 688, used by the allies to justify the allied patrols over the so-called no-fly zones was not adopted under Chapter VII of the UN Charter, the chapter that deals with all matters authorising military force, he said.

"Putting pressure on Iraq is not something that would be a lawful activity in my view, “ said Lord Goodhart, who is also Liberal Democrat shadow Lord Chancellor. “If it was intended to put pressure on Iraq then that is not authorised

The Foreign Office legal advice, which was provided to ministers in March 2002, noted that the Americans had “on occasion” claimed that the allied aircraft were there to enforce compliance with both resolutions 688 and 687, which ordered Iraq to destroy its WMD.

“This view is not consistent with resolution 687, which does not deal with the repression of the Iraqi civilian population, or with resolution 688, which was not adopted under Chapter VII of the UN Charter, and does not contain any provision for enforcement,” it said.

Elizabeth Wilmshurst, one of the Foreign Office law officers who wrote the report, resigned in March 2003 in protest at the decision to go to war without a UN resolution specifically authorising military force.

General Peter Pace, who as vice-chairman of the joint chiefs was the deputy head of the US Armed Forces, told a Pentagon briefing on 16 September 2002, that “the recent strikes have degraded the air defence capabilities”.

Donald Rumsfeld, US Defence Secretary, told the same briefing that he authorised the increase in bombing “less than six months and more than a month ago”, coinciding with the May increase revealed in the MoD figures.

Asked if this was laying the groundwork for an attack on Iraq, Rumsfeld replied: “Well it can’t hurt. I directed it.”

But by that point, the figures reveal, there had been another much larger increase in the number of bombs dropped, with the amount of ordnance used rising from around 10 tons a month to 54.6 tons in September, as the allies began what was in effect the air war.

The use of the allied patrols to begin the air war, known in the Pentagon as the Blue Plan, followed a meeting of the US National Security Council at the White House on 5 August 2002.

General Tommy Franks, the allied commander, recalled in his autobiography American Soldier, that he rejected a call from Condoleezza Rice, US National Security Adviser, to cut the patrols because he wanted to use them to make Iraq’s defences “as weak as possible”.

More than 100 aircraft took part in one raid on September 5, which targeted a major air defence complex at the very western extreme of the southern no-fly zone, far away from any of the persecuted minorities that might have been subject to attack from Saddam’s forces.

The move to an air war was also illegal, Lord Goodhart said. "If as Franks seems to suggest the purpose was to soften up Iraq for a future invasion or even to intimidate Iraq, the coalition forces were acting without lawful authority,” he said.

Although legality has been more of an issue in Britain, the revelations suggest President Bush also acted illegally, since Congress did not authorise military action until 11 October 2002, five months after the spikes of activity began and six weeks after the start of the air war.

A swathe of recent US polls have shown popular opinion moving against the war, while spurred by the leaked memos, Democratic congressmen held a hearing last week to examine whether there was good cause to investigate whether Bush committed impeachable offences.

Reg Keys, the father of L/Cpl Tom Keys, one of six Royal Military Policemen killed in the Iraqi town of Majar al-Kabir in June 2003, traveled to Washington to take part in the hearing. Keys stood against Blair at the election, receiving more than 4,000 votes.

Congressman John Conyers, who chaired the hearing, later delivered a petition containing 540,000 names to the White House, demanding that Bush respond to the more than 100 congressmen who have asked him to say whether the Downing Street memo is accurate.

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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 11:46 AM
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1. Kickin' this cause I know some of you want to see this!
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 11:51 AM
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3. I do want to see it, thanks!
Edited on Sun Jun-19-05 11:54 AM by Straight Shooter
Yes, Michael Smith does respond to e-mails. It's short and sweet, and he doesn't have to do it, but it's greatly appreciated.

I wonder how many e-mails he would get if everyone who was thinking of sending him an e-mail actually wrote him? It's so important to send positive encouragement because the fearful will attack en masse anyone who dares to question the wisdom of their (mis)leader and we need to keep support strong for those who try to keep the truth alive.

edit: ugh, just now reading this portion: However, the leaked Foreign Office legal advice, which was also appended to the Cabinet Office briefing paper for the July meeting, made it clear allied aircraft were legally entitled to patrol the no-fly zones over the north and south of Iraq only to deter attacks by Saddam’s forces on the Kurdish and Shia populations.

The allies had no power to use military force to put pressure of any kind on the regime.




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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 11:56 AM
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6. I wonder that as well, alll I can figure is that he probbaly answers as
many as he can, and then just has to move on... Thats why I said to write to the foreign letters dept as well. Clicking ads is the easiest way to contribute to a paper that is doing what our own press failed to do.

We must support our defenders...
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 05:38 PM
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30. Yes, I wrote the foreign letters department, and I clicked on ads.
I even found a great-looking pair of hiking shoes. Wish I could afford them :7
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 05:52 PM
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33. Lol, too funny!
I think I saw a similar ad...

I wish I could afford some new Tivas!!
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 09:20 AM
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59. He Certainly Does - Rec'd 1 Moments Ago & It was NOT AUTO.
Personal "thank you" to me...
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 09:22 AM
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60. kicking to celebrate the TRUTH being told nt
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FourStarDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 01:16 PM
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69. Thank you for posting this!
Another small step towards impeachment. Thank goodness there's still some great journalists out there.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 11:51 AM
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2. It's true then,...pre-war activities were taking place long before,...
,...congressional approval or agreement with the UNSC.

I swear, this is just friggin' insane!!!
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corbett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 11:52 AM
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4. Kickin' For The Comprehensive Truth!
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 11:53 AM
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5. kicked and nominated....
This one needs to go directly to the top of the Greatest Page. Excellent article by Michael Smith. Thanks for posting it.
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Stockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 12:04 PM
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7. Now thats journalism - nominated
Edited on Sun Jun-19-05 12:08 PM by Stockholm
totally non-partisan (Times is a RW paper), blame where blame is due.

Thank you Mr. Smith
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holboz Donating Member (641 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 12:08 PM
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8. Kick kick kick n/t
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evermind Donating Member (833 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 12:15 PM
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9. Thanks indeed! A real DU coup!
If you're reading this you may be interested in this post:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1561157&mesg_id=1561265

which links to a Nation article on the September 2002 bombing surge and quotes the relevant part of the legal advice paper Mr Smith mentions in is article.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 12:21 PM
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10. Kick and THANK YOU
Edited on Sun Jun-19-05 12:22 PM by helderheid
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 07:40 PM
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41. The Excellent Post & You're Pict "Is it!" DSM will Let It Rip!
The silence from Chimp, Rove & Co. is deafenening... Awaiting their greasy, oily LIES!
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 12:25 PM
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11. wow, thanks for the noms. I will be sending this link to him so say "Hi"!
Lol... Oh I lurve DU with a passion uncontested!
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indie_voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 12:31 PM
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12. Thank you Mr. Smith! n/t
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 12:36 PM
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13. I wish there were more journalists in the US like Michael Smith
:hug:
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 12:42 PM
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14. Heartfelt thanks to Michael! And thanks to you, frictionlessO.

:toast:
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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 12:53 PM
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15. The neocons & PNACkers regard international law as a convenient fiction
when it works for them, like U.N. resolutions, but otherwise firmly believe they and the U.S. should not be bound by it. I know a repuke civil lawyer who sneers at the notion of "international law."



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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 01:09 PM
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18. Very very true, and the best argument for it?? The golden rule!
Nail them down into an individual issue like oh say pre-emptive and illegal military actions, and point out China or Russia (even India and Brazil will work) to illustrate what a very bad idea this is. I have yet to find or hear an intelligent argument that doesn't rely on all out war in its worst case scenarios.

If they continue to argue after that give it up as hopeless, they are ideologues and it will take some deeply moving interpersonal event to change their minds.

Lestways that's my experience...
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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 01:36 PM
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20. I'd say this one is pretty hopeless, but I'll keep that argument in mind
for the future.

It's especially hypocritical that of course these same people insist that U.S. copyrights and patents should be enforced in every obscure corner of the globe
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 02:36 PM
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21. Nice comeback on the copyrights and patents!!
Think I'll be using that one myself.
Thanks!
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 01:01 PM
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16. Thanks for posting this
:kick:
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 01:04 PM
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17. Please, if you haven't already, thank Mr. Smith
His personal email address is:

Michael.Smith@sunday-times.co.uk

I thanked him and he emailed me back a gracious reply!!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3882440
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 01:25 PM
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19. Hey I went over and kicked it again for you,
I wanted to kick it sooo badly the other day... sorry.
:pals: :yourock:
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 05:11 PM
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26. Hey, thanks!! I couldn't figure out why it was "current" again!! :)
Mr. Smith will be so appreciative, I know

:kick:
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 05:33 PM
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29. He is Ailsa, I sent him the link last night!!
Good on ya!:hi: :yourock:
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 04:14 PM
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22. kicked for the early evening crowd.... n/t
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 04:21 PM
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23. .
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 04:53 PM
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25. Link to his statement redgarding that???
I haven't seen anything that says he destroyed them, sure would like to if he did.
Thanks...
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 05:20 PM
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27. Because
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 05:31 PM
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28. He only destroyed the photocopies then? To keep his source from being
Edited on Sun Jun-19-05 05:31 PM by frictionlessO
identified, because of markings on the photocopies that could incriminate his source as the leak.

Whew... thought we were dealing with a new spin. I have no idea how I missed or rather how that bit about destroying the photocopies didn't stick in my head. As that is sort of intriguing in its own right.

Thanks for the info!!
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 07:30 AM
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52. please go here
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 05:39 PM
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31. Here's a report of the US striking a CIVILIAN target in Sept 2002!
You can't get any more illegal then hitting civilian targets on purpose and this was over a year and a half BEFORE the WAR.



Monday September 30, 2002 12:20 PM
Iraq says U.S. planes attack Basra airport again

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Iraq said on Sunday U.S. jets had raided the Basra civilian airport for the second time in a week, targeting its radar systems and the passenger terminals.

In Tampa, Florida, U.S. Central Command confirmed an attack but said it was aimed at a military mobile radar at Basra "in response to hostile acts".

An Iraqi Transport Ministry spokesman said in a statement to the official Iraqi News Agency: "Planes of the American enemy targeted and destroyed for the second time the civilian radar system of Basra airport."

The spokesman said the attack on the airport in Basra, 480 km southeast of Baghdad, took place on Sunday at 00:45 a.m. (2045 GMT on Saturday).

An Iraqi military spokesman said U.S. and British planes on Saturday night attacked "civilian and service" installations in Qalat Sikur, about 200 km southeast of Baghdad.

http://www.ccmep.org/2002_articles/Iraq/monday_september_30_bombing.htm


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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 06:13 PM
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34. Ahh but see they have cover with that radar painting them.
I think every strike will need to be reviewed now. If they were just trying to swat at the actual radar for looking at them due to civilian air traffic then it might be forgivable in a court. However if what the attack profile doesn't fir that of a wild weasel mission, it'll look bad.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 06:17 PM
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35. You think they could tell the difference
between the airport radar and a passenger terminal?

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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 06:37 PM
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37. Thats sorta what I meant, the profile of the actual mission should reveal
the truth. They had no business bombing any civilian location, however if they fired a couple of H.A.R.M.s at the radar that went a bit awry, they have some political cover.

Like I said though I think in light of this report and the warm up raids, every single attack mission needs to be scrutinized. Maybe even should be part of a first step into investigations.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 06:36 PM
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36. Kicked and recommended!
This is GREAT!!!

It all started with a third-rate break-in, remember? And look what blossomed?

This one is starting with baby steps and a whole lotta lies. Let's keep it going - the momentum is OURS!!!
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 08:06 PM
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43. It sure is great!
The tsunami of truth builds!!
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 06:45 PM
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38. And a *kick* for FACTS.
RUN AWAY, rightwingnuts! RUN AWAY before the nasty mean ol FACTS get ya!
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 08:42 PM
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44. Like cockroaches from light!!
What don't they understand about "facts being fixed", I'll never get it! So simple when in fact they know we know they KNOW what IT means because they called us a host of detesbale names for saying the exact same thing for a few years now!

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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 09:35 AM
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74. how can a fact be "fixed".... it stands on it's own
fixing means you don't like what it says

2+2=4 was not acceptable
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 07:03 PM
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39. kick ass!
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 09:03 PM
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46. Ass kick!
Edited on Sun Jun-19-05 09:03 PM by frictionlessO
:kick:
fergott duh asskicker!
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 07:26 PM
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40. Thank you for posting! Recommended.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4173.htm


WE THE PEOPLE .... WILL NEVER FORGET

"... we sent our young people into harm's way without leveling with the American people." - Congresswoman Pelosi before Congress, 16 June 2005



Peace.


www.missionnotaccomplished.us - Impeachment of Bush and Cheney; indictment and prosecution of all members of the Bush regime who participated in the deception, should be campaign promises of any candidate worthy of our vote in the 2006 Congressional elections.
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 09:20 PM
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47. Always a pleasure seeing you on a thread UL!
Thanks for the rec!!
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 09:49 PM
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49. Thanks fric! Check this one on Nuremberg:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3885693&mesg_id=3899138

Peace.


www.missionnotaccomplished.us - STOP THE ATROCITIES; PROSECUTE BU$H AND ALL THE OTHER WAR CRIMINALS, NOW
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 09:05 AM
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57. excellent framing there!! Kudos!
and thanks!
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 07:54 PM
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42. Done! Sent Thank-You Email to both. Thumbs-up!
Don't leave us now! This guy is our Deep Throat Two.

Worse then Watergate, the piles of BS from *!
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 08:45 PM
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45. Thanks. I like it when a reporter lets the facts tell the story.
Kudos to Michael Smith and the editors at the Times (that's the London Times) for reporting the truth.

As we've seen these past months it's easier to hide or lie while
pushing their own ignorant opinions like that sorry excuse for a reporter turned "columnist" Dana Milbank of the Washington Post.

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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 09:47 PM
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48. Yes Michael is what Im hoping more of our own will aspire to.
LOL, uhmm do you feel a wee bit of contempt for Mr. Milbank?
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 08:19 AM
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55. LOL. Yes, very much so. Also for the editors that let that article
be WaPo's ONLY coverage of the DSM hearing.

By not offering a straight news report, they let the world know they support Bush's lies. To me they are no better than Fox.

The ombudsman's follow-up article on the public reaction to Milbank's article was a whitewash that fell far short of an admission that they failed the people again.

WaPo is going to have to work double-time to make up for a serious lapse in judgement and for dissing all Democrats.

Ok, probably more response than you wanted....

:)
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 10:41 AM
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63. Nope exactly the amount of response I wanted! hehe
Perfectly succinct and to the point, also fact based and well researched... unlike those whom you anger is directed at!
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 01:26 AM
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50. thank you. Bookmarked and recommended. n/t
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 06:50 AM
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51. Heya NWH!! Thanks for the reco!! n/t
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 02:38 PM
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72. Thank YOU for posting this!
:toast:

...and :kick:
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 08:08 AM
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53. Kick!
:kick:
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 08:15 AM
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54. Mr. Smith was gracious to reply to my email, as well.
It is such a shock to encounter a journalist that is also a professional, considering the American investigative journalist should be posted to the endangered species list. Mr. Smith is a class act.
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 08:27 AM
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56. I know I was very very shocked to get replied to!
and yes that on top of his journalistic values.

Endangered species sometimes make a comeback, well one can always hope!
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 09:19 AM
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58. Just Rec'd a "Thank you Email" from Michael!
Though I told him "not too," as he's certainly overwhemed with emails at the moment and has other more important things to do like save the world per se, he took time to email me back personally just to thank me!

He said he read that I said "not to respond," but felt I deserved as much. Ya can't get that over here less it's an automated-type.
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 10:05 AM
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61. Is he not awesome? Truly a gentleman on top of skilled tradecraft!
He really is a good reporter I checked up on soem of his older articles. Same style and grace.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 07:50 PM
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75. I've saved it. Seen him on MSNBC: It was a Proud Moment.
Edited on Tue Jun-21-05 07:50 PM by AuntiBush
Amazing... this guy took the time to personally write back, saying never to ask him not too. Wow... sorta reminds you of a true American Patriot pre-2000.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 10:55 AM
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64. Why don't we have REAL JOURNALISTS like that HERE?
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 10:57 AM
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65. That is the question and the problem aint it RedQueen?!
and hey so very very good to see ya!
:hi:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 11:02 AM
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66. Good to see you, too!
Edited on Mon Jun-20-05 11:02 AM by redqueen
:hi:

IMO we all need to call at least one media outlet EVERY SINGLE DAY and let them know we're fed up with their whorish ways.
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 11:35 AM
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67. True that!! Oh and dig this...
I found that AEIOU sometimes Y song!! Have two different versions of it on the 'puter at home.
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Orion The Hunter Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 12:42 PM
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68. RE: Article from the Times
Thanks Friction for posting this article. A good read. Yes, Mr. Smith certainly could stand to rub off some of his investigative mojo on what we have here, which sadly passes for investigative journalism.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 01:17 PM
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70. Kick
this deserves one.
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the phantom shouting Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 02:22 PM
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71. A Quick Note Sent to my Senators and Members of the Media
Letter to Dick Durbin, Barack Obama and media:

Are you ready for a good time? Bringing the Bush Boys to their knees is going to be FUN, and I don't want anyone to miss out on the party. These jokers in the White House have mocked the American people for the last time, and now they have to pay the highest penalty for their unconscionable crimes. Together, we will dance on their political graves, while wine flows freely and lovers lie in the lush grass of the beautiful new meadow and serenade one another, giggling with delight at whispered sweet nothings. It's time for this national nightmare to end, and for the new U.S. dawn to come streaming over the glorious horizon. Alright, the day of reckoning fast approaches, see you there...
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bornagainhuman Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 09:31 AM
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73. wow great wording and i love the image it portrays
i can hardly wait
and welcome to DU!!!
:hippie:
:grouphug:
:pals:
:toast:
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