Mayberry Machiavelli
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Sun Jun-19-05 02:43 PM
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What do the RWers you know talk about these days? |
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Since there is an endless stream of good news from Iraq, Wall Street, and the gas pump?
What do they even talk about at places like our "competitor" sites I wonder?
Some of the RWers I know still manage to get spun up about whatever Rush or Hannity tell them to get spun up about. Really unbelievable. Howard Dean remarks, or whatever. But they are all very comfortable money wise and no kids in Iraq.
Mostly I don't hear too much about politics or current events (I live in RW central) these days.
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Sun Jun-19-05 02:46 PM
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1. I don't know because.. |
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.. all we talk about is the weather and family stuff.
I did get an email from my rightwing fundie family about signing a petition on behalf of social security.
Sheesh. It took a threat to social security to wake them up a bit. So, like I said before, it has to hit them where it counts... and that's not in the heart.
Sue
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Sun Jun-19-05 02:48 PM
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2. I don't know any Rwingers. |
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Not enough to have a conversation with them.
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Sun Jun-19-05 02:49 PM
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3. They talk about how it would be much worse under the Democrats |
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Edited on Sun Jun-19-05 02:50 PM by TwentyFive
They remember the long gas lines under Jimmy Carter, the malaise speech, hostages in Iran, failed rescue attempt, etc.
But, they can't seem to remember how many illegal wars President Carter started, or if he drove the US to record deficits, hired industry executives to edit scientific research, created new foreign enemies, etc. Seem to have a very selective memory.
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Sun Jun-19-05 02:51 PM
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4. "I'm not happy with Bush, but Kerry would have been worse." |
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"You guys had your chance in the election, but you nominated a far left phony."
I don't hear anything good about Bush any more, but I still hear negative things said about Kerry and about the Democrats nominating him. Republican voters are at the stage where they have to convince themselves they had no choice. There is no longer any way to avoid recognizing how much Bush and the neocons have damaged the country, but Republicans don't want to accept responsibility for that.
Doesn't denial precede anger? I think the pubbies are going to get more and more angry that Bush "perverted" their political philosophy.
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Sun Jun-19-05 03:48 PM
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17. That's a very good way of explaining it |
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"Republican voters are at the stage where they have to convince themselves they had no choice."
Thanks. They make a little more sense now.
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Sun Jun-19-05 02:56 PM
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5. one I spoke to last night was apologising for the chimp |
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saying he is just a puppet and has no control over what the rest of the cabal are doing. I called him on his BS and his wife said we needed to spend more time together.
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Mayberry Machiavelli
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Sun Jun-19-05 03:07 PM
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8. So? He has no responsibility? And your RW acquaintance has no |
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responsibility for voting for him? No one has any responsibility for anything unless it's Dems?
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Sun Jun-19-05 03:01 PM
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6. many of my co workers are repubs and i dont hear any of them |
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talking about politics or the war lately but i also work from home mostly. I notice when i do have to go in that the tone has changed, i think a lot of them thought that since Bush won that zap! All the problems would just go away, Iraq would just all of a sudden become a functioning democracy.
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Sun Jun-19-05 03:05 PM
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they want Bush to appoint judges
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Sun Jun-19-05 03:08 PM
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9. There are two at my barn. Neither knows anything about what |
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is going on now. They just think their guy won and everything is right with the world. They make no effort to learn about current events.
They voted for the guy most like them.
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Mayberry Machiavelli
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Sun Jun-19-05 03:21 PM
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10. I'm especially interested in what poor or lower middle class RWers are |
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thinking and feeling. If there's gonna be any movement it has to come from there. They are the ones whose health insurance coverage (if any) and social security is increasingly at risk.
My spouse has a friend through a hobby who voted for shrub. Basically poor. Like the typical voter here in the Southwest bought into the smears of Kerry and the fear. She has serious buyer's remorse and has said that it was a definite mistake that she voted for Bush.
The issue that turned it for her was when she saw Shrubco's zeal to dismantle Social Security. She's no genius but knows enough that people in her situation are going to NEED it.
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Sun Jun-19-05 03:27 PM
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12. Actually, one of them just removed the * '04 sticker from her SUV |
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I should ask her why...I know she is not a wealthy person.
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Sun Jun-19-05 03:26 PM
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11. Howard Dean. Because he's so "mean-spirited" |
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They sure as hell don't talk about Iraq. Or the economy. Or gas prices. Or anything else that matters. They truly are on the defensive.
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Sun Jun-19-05 03:31 PM
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13. They blame everything on Hollywood movie stars and Europeans |
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Sun Jun-19-05 03:34 PM
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14. My republican friends are still talking about... |
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Bill Clinton :P
(dead serious)
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Sun Jun-19-05 04:11 PM
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21. We must have the same |
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Republican friends. Lucky us. Because so are mine. And how horrible Hillary is. They can't say why exactly.....supposedly she murdered Vince Foster. And she did "bad things" back in Arkansas. And, well, she's a pushy bitch. These people still tell Clinton blowjob jokes. Sigh. We have moronic Republican friends. Thank God for all the wonderful liberals.
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Sun Jun-19-05 04:15 PM
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I'm on a few websites where, yes, the repubs are talking about how glad they are to have a president who doesn't cheat on his wife. Seriously, that's the only thing they can come up with. It inevitably leads into how harmful it was for the children to have a president who had no morals and what a horrible role model Clinton was. :freak: Oh and they whine about the price of gas and how the librul media is out to get Bush.
That about covers the ones I talk to.
But really, Clinton? still? Getthefuckoverit!
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Sun Jun-19-05 03:42 PM
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15. Price of fuel is a big issue and they are not happy with bush*cheney |
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about that. Have heard several bitching about outsourcing and the fact that the corporations have the Congress of the US and the oval office all in their pockets. Most also seem to be pleased with our MT (DEM) Governor, noting that Rasicot and Marx were both bad for the state.
Not much radio where I live, but Internet is pretty popular. Wonder if that 'splains the turn around.
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Sun Jun-19-05 03:45 PM
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16. TV, or how gas taxes are raising gas prices. |
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seriously, did you know that is why gas prices have jumped so high so fast? because states put on gas taxes. And I don't watch tv so don't care their either.
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Sun Jun-19-05 03:54 PM
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18. In my area of Canada... |
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... even quite conservative people think Bush is nuts. So there really aren't that many people to argue with about Bush (fortunately).
-P
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Sun Jun-19-05 03:59 PM
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19. The RWers at work talk about Weight Watchers points. |
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I hear them talk amongst themselves, but they don't talk to me anymore.
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Sun Jun-19-05 04:17 PM
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23. I go to the WW discussion boards |
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and you wouldn't believe the odious freepers there. I occasionally post on the Progressive Thought thread. But the threads are so overrun with trolls (with no moderating) that I always leave. The freepers are so uninformed, it's maddening. How can you have a discussion with people who dont' read and only listen to hate-radio? They don't deal in facts. They have no idea what the DSM is. They just spout emotionally charged evangelical platitudes. For every subject. Life is much better here. You've taken the right tactic: Stay to yourself and mix with the liberals.
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Sun Jun-19-05 04:08 PM
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20. Most I've met lately wear an expression like |
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* wore during the first debate: The "I-sucked-on-a-sour-pickle" face. They look absolutely miserable. I would say these are older, middle to upper middle income Caucasians.
They seem to be jumpy, on the defensive, like they know * is a piece of shit and dumb as a brick, but they have to be right and now they resent the FUCK out of being wrong.
These are people who are used to getting their own way, because they flash the cash or browbeat the spouse or verbally abuse the kids. They can't really act that way in polite society, so they are fuming inside because they can't force us to LOOOOOVE their Chimpy.
They got what they wanted and they're miserable!
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Sun Jun-19-05 04:19 PM
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24. I get pictures of happy Iraqis |
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You know-- arms wrapped around the troops --- all smiling.
Troops giving kids candies
Iraqis holding signs *IN ENGLISH* saying things like "thank you"
Then the sender has-- just to let you know what the media isn't telling us.
They're trying to balance out the bad news with this good news, as if they were the only ones who'd seen these pics...or that they were the first to send them around.
Ugh.
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Sun Jun-19-05 04:23 PM
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25. this one's priceless (in a pathetic way): |
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a doc(R) i work for brings work i do for him by the house every friday. i've worked for him since august 2001, and we've talked a lot since then. i thought he was finally waking up to what's going down when he said he's going to get his sons out of here before the draft starts. well, the other day i happened to walk behind his new car and there was a big bright shiny "W" on the rear windshield!!!!! i lost it and told him i couldn't work for someone with that crap on his car! he laughed and thought it was funny......
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Sun Jun-19-05 04:29 PM
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26. Not much in regards to politics. |
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My two friends who are doing pretty good in life money wise and whom are only interested in politics come sept before a presidental election haven't mentioned word one. Although I did have one of them pump the market and Bush pretty hard back in Feb before it came back down and went flat.
My personal opinion is that they and the rest of the public are upset about the cost of gas and that is killing Bush. Most could give two shits how many die in Iraq as long as its not them or their loved ones.. but the gas well thats putting a dent into the weekly lake trip.
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