quaoar
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Sun Jun-19-05 08:53 PM
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Who is the most pig-headed Bush voter you know? |
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My father takes the prize for this.
I refuse to engage him in any political discussion. he voted for Goldwater and Nixon. He even voted for David Duke when he ran for governor of Louisiana.
He watches Fox 24/7. He thinks Democrats are traitors and wonders where he went wrong raising me (hint: he sent me to college).
If my father ever says a critical word about Bush or the war in Iraq, I will know that Bush is dead meat.
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Sun Jun-19-05 08:56 PM
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His Social Democratic father is turning in his grave.
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Sun Jun-19-05 08:58 PM
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...that I don't think I actually know anyone who voted for Bush. Oh, I suppose most of my family did, but I haven't had any contact with them in years, and don't really know who they voted for.
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Sun Jun-19-05 08:58 PM
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Anytime we talk politics we end up not speaking for like a week.
When I talk about what is good for everyone, he is only concerned with what's gonna make him more money.
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Sun Jun-19-05 09:13 PM
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10. Wow, good job going against your fathers politics... |
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i know that most people end up following their parents political views. For me it would have to be my boyfriends best friend. He listens to Hannity every day and whenever he talks about politics I can tell he is just repeating what he has heard on Fox . He is convinced that the "liberal media" is controlling everything and putting a negative spin on Bush and that Fox is the only station that is giving the American people "fair & balanced" news. He always has to say something negative when he sees a Kerry bumper sticker and thinks that Clinton caused 9-11. I get along with the guy really well as long as he isn't talking politics, but he is moving in with me and my boyfriend next month so I am pretty weary. I see some major fights coming on if he gets too vocal with his views and says something that offends me.
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Sun Jun-19-05 08:59 PM
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4. This fundie freak lady at work... |
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Her statement during a discussion of Gitmo last week: "Sometimes you have to do horrible things if it means protecting America." ... and then she runs around railing against abortion and talking about morals. These people are frightening and tragically funny at the same time.
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Sun Jun-19-05 09:00 PM
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5. Most of the people I know who voted for him |
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don't really talk about him. Or when he comes up, they kind of shrug and don't say much. You can tell it's uncomfortable at this point.
Mostly they have just decided to re-direct their energies at hating Howard Dean instead of being positive about the person they voted for.
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Sun Jun-19-05 09:01 PM
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6. Tim Russert, he looks just like one n/t |
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Sun Jun-19-05 09:06 PM
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7. My half in, half out of the closet, gay born again uncle |
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I don't even talk about politics with him, because my head would explode.
Now where is my prize?
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Sun Jun-19-05 09:07 PM
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8. My new brother-in-law... |
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But he did say that he won't vote for another President until one states that he will close the Mexican border and have troops guarding it 24/7.
Hey, it's not a conversion, but at least it's a -1 to the Repuke vote count.
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Sun Jun-19-05 09:12 PM
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Who, oddly enough, I just had a "discussion" with last night. He recited chapter and verse from Savage or Hannity or whichever nutjob he subscribes to. The moment he went into something concerning the Swiffers for Troof I went off on a tear. lol
As much as I shut him up, I know for sure I didn't make a dent.
*sigh*
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Sun Jun-19-05 09:22 PM
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My father, my uncle, mu aunt, my sister, all of my co-workers (and I do mean ALL I am the ONLY Democrat there). I am surrounded by them. But I keep the heat up and give them not one minutes peace.
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Sun Jun-19-05 10:04 PM
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Just because his jingoisms are a tad predictable, and at 82 he's set in his ways. I fear he'll never get it. My brothers-in law, well let's just say I'm not into Discussions That Become Loudness Competitions ;) Although they are both against the Patriot Act and the mess that is Iraq, they cling to the media stereotypes of Democrats, and in the end, only they can change their own minds.
One sister is on my side as is my brother, one sister tries to avoid discussing it altogether, and the 3rd has her problems with Bush, but she just couldn't see her way to voting for Kerry. My cousin's brothers are both solidly in the Dubya Gives Me Agita Camp, so it's a mixed bag here.
I guess I'm a bit luckier than you in that I have some people who see things the way I do and I wish you some support besides the great folks here at DU. Oddly, it's been my experience that it often comes from the people you least expect it to.
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Sun Jun-19-05 09:21 PM
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I don't understand it. He is truly one of the most honest people I've ever met, and I cannot understand how he doesn't recognize such mendacity and duplicitousness in bush. Yet he has defended him at every turn and twist in the crooked path bush has taken since 2000.
I haven't talked to my accountant since before the 2004 election. At least he listens to me, we don't go for each other's political jugular, and maybe the Downing Street Minutes will turn him around. If I can get him to change his thinking, he has enough influence to change others. And so on, and so on, down the line it goes.
There is hope. In the meantime, he cannot even begin to comprehend my frustration.
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Sun Jun-19-05 09:22 PM
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He was an ardent McCain supporter in 2000, campaigned for McCain in his home state of South Carolina. Incredibly, although FIL was well aware that his candidate was edged out of the running by Rove's odious push-polling, he still voted for Bush in the general election... gotta vote the party line, doncha know. Can't be votin' fer no Democrat, oh hell no! Again in 2004, he knew Bush was a liar and a fraud but voted for him because, naturally, he can't be votin' fer no Democrat, dadgummit! Ah well, a leopard can't change his spots...
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Sun Jun-19-05 09:32 PM
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Anymore we have a hard time having a conversation, he keeps saying, "Don't go there."
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Sun Jun-19-05 09:36 PM
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15. An aunt I haven't seen for years, thank goodness |
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who thought Clinton was a communist and adores Bush.
My own generation ended up all lefty except for three exceptions, and that's 3 out of 22, not a bad record.
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Sun Jun-19-05 10:07 PM
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An ex-navy drinking buddy who should know better. Though he did have some sense on the Terri Schiavo(sp?) case. He's number one only because I talk to him alot over beers. Number 2 is my brother in law who is equally pig headed.
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Sun Jun-19-05 10:12 PM
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I don't even have to talk to him about it to know. My mother's told me and even though she's a RWer, she does hate the war. She says he still supports it and given her father's age and how weird he is about some things I decided it's not even worth saying anything to him about it. It would make him too angry and he's not very reasonable when he's like that.
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Sun Jun-19-05 10:13 PM
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19. my brother & my nephew (his son) |
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It's sad--my nephew tried to tell me that Kerry was a murderer (I gave him a 'wtf' look before he could elaborate)and his mom had to keep him from calling me after the election so he could gloat. He's really a sweet little boy usually but he's brainwashed into rooting for Bush like it's all a big game.
Then my brother is so brainwashed by Rush (the wmd's are in Syria, etc) that there's no use trying to talk to him. We love each other, but they are just so deluded.
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Sun Jun-19-05 10:21 PM
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20. My alcoholic pig headed POS brother inlaw from Chicago..... |
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keeps emailing my wife with the usual freeper based garbage. Wish my sister was not so desperate as to stay with this looser. Her kids have no chance of having an open mind to anything.
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Sun Jun-19-05 10:27 PM
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The allergist I need to continue to exist. Don't even get me started. I don't know if I'd switch if I had the option (he's the only available one in my city at my present) because he's really excellent as a provider and can keep his political views to himself. It was that one time I ran into him outside of his office--with a gigantic Bush sign in his hand, claiming he had to support "his Texas brother"--that made me question anything about him. Of all the reasons to vote Republican...regional loyalty? That's ridiculous.
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Sun Jun-19-05 11:19 PM
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22. My next door neighbor |
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She has had a "support bush and the troops" sign up in her driveway for the last 3 years, even though we live in a rural area, at the end of a short dead-end driveway. (In other words, we are the only ones that see it every day.) She has a huge American flag on her porch. Bush bumpersticker, republican license plate holders, you name it.
She told me recently that Saddam supported terrorists, linked to 911. We had a big argument, going nowhere because I realized that apparently her only source of information is Faux News and conservative e-mail lists... there is no basis for intelligent discussion. According to her , the troops are in Iraq fighting for MY freedom to say Bush is a liar.
It makes my head spin.
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