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Mon Jun-20-05 12:34 PM
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New TakeBackTheMedia Flash: 'Let Them Eat War' |
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Mon Jun-20-05 12:51 PM
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1. FUCKING UNBELIEVABLY BRILLIANT!!! |
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:wow: Now please 'splain me how come I can't view Symbolman's vid of Conyers At the Gate. :shrug: (I'm a o' lady. Please be gentle! ;-) )
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Mon Jun-20-05 12:58 PM
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2. I just did a replay... |
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Mon Jun-20-05 12:58 PM
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3. It may have something to do with Windows Media... |
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It's version 9, so you might have to upgrade your WinMedia player.
If you're a QuickTime person, we may have to add a separate link so you can see it. I'll bring it up with Sym when he wakes up (he's been on a marathon DVD editing jag for two days or so). :)
Glad you liked the flash!
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Mon Jun-20-05 01:05 PM
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Please DO add a Quicktime link! I'm certain I'm not the only one who would be happy! TY!
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Mon Jun-20-05 06:17 PM
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29. Normally we do Quicktime |
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Video came off a new machine without the right Quicktime on it - I'll see if I can put it into Quicktime for you.
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Mon Jun-20-05 01:02 PM
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That image of the Iraqi with the bag over his head while comforting the boy just killed me.
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Mon Jun-20-05 01:04 PM
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5. BRILLIANT. Dead, cold, stinking BRILLIANT! |
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Mon Jun-20-05 01:08 PM
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It's been a while since i actually put together a longer-form flash - I was actually nervous that I'd lose the thread or otherwise muck it up.
It's just that song is so freakin' good. Greg Graffin is a genius.
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Mon Jun-20-05 01:44 PM
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I only gave it one listen but I think the song is basically about how the poor are getting screwed by the rich twice: once by being deprived of a means to make a decent living and again by having, basically, no better way out than to sign up to kill somebody, somewhere.
By focusing the visual content on the war itself the effect is to criticize the war on the inhumanity and senselessness of it; to tie in a bit more with the idea of U.S. poor being sent to kill would make the song and the visuals synch up better.
Now, I used to listen to BR around the "Suffer" days and so basically am a fan of their older music. I have trouble rocking out and looking at photos of dead and maimed babies, however.
So, I guess that is a "great job!" and two points of criticism.
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Mon Jun-20-05 01:53 PM
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I spent a lot of time listening to the song and trying to tie in the poor to the flash. I'll admit I could have done better in that respect.
So I'll admit that you've made good points, and thank you for liking it anyway. :)
-as
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Mon Jun-20-05 01:07 PM
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7. Distribute far and wide. |
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"... we sent our young people into harm's way without leveling with the American people." - Congresswoman Pelosi before Congress, 16 June 2005 Peace. www.missionnotaccomplished.us - Impeachment of Bush and Cheney; indictment and prosecution of all members of the Bush regime who participated in the deception, should be campaign promises of any candidate worthy of our vote in the 2006 Congressional elections.
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Mon Jun-20-05 01:50 PM
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10. GREAT!!!! RECOMMENDING |
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Mon Jun-20-05 01:51 PM
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Absolutely brilliant. I hope this gets wide play.
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Mon Jun-20-05 03:38 PM
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13. May the sounds ring in their ears..... |
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Let them eat WAR!
"BRILLIANT"
Bad Religion!!!! :patriot:
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Mon Jun-20-05 03:52 PM
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14. REALLY NAILING EM TO THE WALL, am_strange...... |
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Edited on Mon Jun-20-05 03:52 PM by blm
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Mon Jun-20-05 03:54 PM
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Hope all's well with you, Mr. blm and Baby blm - although I'd guess she's hardly a baby any more. :)
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Mon Jun-20-05 03:59 PM
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16. 4yo.....5 in a few months. |
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And Gorgeous....and Smart....and loathes Bush.
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Mon Jun-20-05 04:50 PM
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26. Takes after her mom, then! |
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Good to see you're raising her right. I would have expected nothing less! :)
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Mon Jun-20-05 04:01 PM
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17. that must have been hard to put together |
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As brilliant as it was, I cannot stomach to look at it a 2nd time, but EVERY American should be REQUIRED to watch it at least once!
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Mon Jun-20-05 04:03 PM
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Mon Jun-20-05 04:05 PM
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19. I can't view it. Is it Windows Media only? |
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AAAARRGH! Pleeeze add a QT link, if so. The song's too damn good forr me not to see this!
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Mon Jun-20-05 04:08 PM
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20. It's a flash animation... |
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You might need to update your flash browser plugin.
Sorry about that!
-as
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Mon Jun-20-05 04:10 PM
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21. Where can I get that? |
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It loads the rest of the page, but there's a black box where the movie should be.
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Mon Jun-20-05 04:14 PM
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Mon Jun-20-05 04:18 PM
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Edited on Mon Jun-20-05 04:19 PM by ZombieNixon
That's Spanglish for "Thanks."
Edit: Did you guess that I use OS X b/c I said I wanted QT, or have you been hacking my files?
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Mon Jun-20-05 04:16 PM
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thanks americastranger - passing it on
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Mon Jun-20-05 04:17 PM
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24. Wow! Very powerful! (n/t) |
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Mon Jun-20-05 04:54 PM
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your work moves me. Very profound.
Good to see you Stranger. :toast:
Julie
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Mon Jun-20-05 05:07 PM
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This is one of Stranger's best. It had me in tears...
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Mon Jun-20-05 06:44 PM
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For the night-time crowd...
Enjoy!
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Mon Jun-20-05 09:52 PM
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email this to your friends...
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Mon Jun-20-05 10:04 PM
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Edited on Mon Jun-20-05 10:06 PM by symbolman
*I*m supposed to make the really long deep emotional flashes - but you got me beat all to hell with this one (and I'm not dissing American Stranger's other work, go to our site and check them all out - he's ALWAYS got cooler music.. hell, he can write and perform his OWN MUSIC, he's even got a CD "Den of Thieves" that shook me to the core..)..
I salute you sir :)
I don't know if anyone knows this but Takebackthemedia.com sprang from a flash "duel" between Stranger and I when we hardly knew each other.. we kept trying to one up each other and finally decided to join forces..
I like to think that he and I basically Invented the Political Flash scene on the web.. at the least we were in the running.. we've done a LOT of these babies for FREE.
Because we love you, if we slept with you we'd not just give you our number and have you find out that it's "Dial-a-Prayer" :)
POWERFUL Stuff man, great, great job!
(I've got one waiting in the wings, but I'll wait til as many people as possible see THIS wonderful Flash by Stranger..)
I've finally realised that we have been on the right track all along at TBTM.COM, this is a PR WAR folks.. if you make them look BAD then they will back down a notch, they don't let the media show people in the streets, so we took it to the internet..
This one is posted at Buzzflash as well, and rightly so..
Well, back to the editing scene - almost all edited (the Conyers Hearing/Rally and Interviews), now it will take me 6 hours to input it to tape, then 6 hours to generate a DVD (two of them) - so that's 12 hours just to create two "master" DVDs that I will begin replicating immediately after - luckily that it doesn't take real time to replicate so I'll be making and sending stacks of DVDS by tomorrow..
Sorry, I'm off by a day, came home to a sick 5 month old baby, so I was multi-tasking :)
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Mon Jun-20-05 10:25 PM
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34. Thank you, my friend. |
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Edited on Mon Jun-20-05 10:25 PM by americanstranger
Nice to get compliments from the Big Guy. :)
The Bad Religion song was just too good to pass up - I opened the last TBTM Radio show with it (when Sym's out globe-trotting, I take the opportunity to play some good radical music - this one turned into a 90-minute show, which you can download to your iPod) and I couldn't get it out of my head. So while Sym was editing the DSM DVD, I figured I'd make myself useful and put a new flash together.
Can't wait for your next one - but I've got another germ of an idea brewing over here as well. And we'll be doing another episode of TBTM Radio this week, too.
(There may be some cool news on the radio front - we're working on something...)
So I guess is a late-night kick. :)
Cheers, Sym! Can't wait to peep the DVD!
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Tue Jun-21-05 07:49 AM
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Appreciate your fine work at TBTM!
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Mon Jun-20-05 10:30 PM
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Mon Jun-20-05 10:35 PM
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36. I just love you and Symbolman |
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Yet another great piece. :thumbsup: :hi:
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Mon Jun-20-05 11:06 PM
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Thank you for your phenomenal talent! I pass it on to all.
You guys are brilliant!
Keep making me cry, it keeps my blood boiling and gives me the heart to keep protesting these Nazis!
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Tue Jun-21-05 03:43 AM
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Tue Jun-21-05 05:27 AM
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39. Fuck me that is fucking brilliant n/t |
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Tue Jun-21-05 09:57 AM
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And as i was beginning to think, really show them the suppressed photos, the carnage escalated- though short of many horrors better seen on Al Jazeera. A photo of Rumsfeld shaking Saddam's hand is always a must in something like this and definitely fair.
Dissemination is all.
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Tue Jun-21-05 09:58 AM
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42. An early morning kick |
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at least it's early morning where I'm at..
thanks for the mutual compliments folks, we try..
should have an interesting radio show this week - If I'm still alive after this marathon trip and edits..
Just have to add one voice over to the DVDs then input them to make masters and its off to the Post Office :)
Someone should have awards for political flash animations on the web.. Hmmmm.. an idea..
thanks again! And good On Ya Stranger :)
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Tue Jun-21-05 10:45 AM
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43. Can I get a Quicktime? |
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Can I get a Quicktime?
Backround singers: OOOO-OOOO
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Tue Jun-21-05 10:57 AM
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44. Actually, this is a flash animation. |
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To convert it to QT would make an extremely large file - not the most convenient for download. You should be able to see it through your browser - if you can't, you should try updating the flash plugin for your browser. You can get the latest flash player here: http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer-as
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Tue Jun-21-05 11:51 AM
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45. Sorry for being unclear... |
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It's Symbolman's trailer of John & folks at the gates that I haven't yet been able to view. "Let Them Eat War" is long since in the Outbox! ;-)
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Tue Jun-21-05 11:58 AM
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I may try converting the file to a QT today...
If I get it done, i'll post the link for you.
-as
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Tue Jun-21-05 12:56 PM
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48. Karenina dons her Dirndl |
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and does a happy dance!!! :woohoo:
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Tue Jun-21-05 12:17 PM
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The juxtaposition of innocent blood and ignorant flag waving creates a vivid stain on our national conscience.
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