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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 04:10 PM
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Response from Norm Coleman on DSM issue:
Dear Friend :

Thank you for taking the time to contact me concerning a British memo about pre-Iraq war intelligence.

As you may know, on May 1, 2005, the London Sunday Times published a memo written by British foreign policy aide Matthew Rycroft based on notes he had taken during a July 2002 meeting with Prime Minister Tony Blair and his advisors. The memo reflected Mr. Rycroft's opinion that the U.S. was intent on removing Saddam Hussein from power and was fixing intelligence around that policy.

Clearly there have been shortcomings in intelligence about Iraq 's prewar capabilities. However, the U.S. was not alone in our assessment about Saddam's weapons programs. Foreign intelligence agencies, including the British and Australian services, as well as the UN, believed Saddam had weapons of mass destruction ( WMDs ). UN Security Council Resolution 1441, which passed unanimously in 2002, stated that Iraq posed a threat to international peace and security because of its WMD proliferation.

After Saddam was removed from power, the Iraq Survey Group (ISG) was assigned the task of investigating Saddam's WMD program. The ISG report by Charles Duelfer details Saddam Hussein's attempts to end U.N. sanctions against him while preserving his capacity to reconstitute his WMD programs once the sanctions were lifted.

Saddam Hussein used WMDs against his own people and clearly did not abandon his WMD ambitions. He personally directed efforts to hide and preserve documentation related to Iraq 's nuclear program and prevented Iraqi scientists from leaving Iraq , enabling him to restart his WMD programs. Although stockpiles of WMDs were not found in Iraq, the facts contained in the Duelfer report show that Saddam Hussein maintained the capacity to rebuild his WMD programs in a short amount of time, and that he was actively undercutting the sanctions against him. Given the multiple sources of pre-war intelligence, as well as the findings of the Duelfer Report, there is little evidence to support the Rycroft memo.

In order to address failures with pre-war intelligence, however, I worked closely with my colleagues in the 108 th Congress to construct and pass a comprehensive intelligence reform bill, the National Intelligence Reform Act of 2004 (S. 2845) which became public law on December 17, 2004. I also supported Ambassador John Negroponte to be the first Director of National Intelligence for the United States and oversee this major intelligence reorganization.

Thank you once again for contacting me. I value your advice. If I may be of further assistance to you in the future, please do not hesitate to contact me again.

Sincerely,
Norm Coleman
United States Senate


I sent him a windy reply documenting his ignorance, but thought I'd share the new "talking points."

Peace
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 04:12 PM
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1. I'd love to see somebody make a movie where
Ben Affleck played Norm Coleman. He could really nail the bastard.
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 04:15 PM
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5. Normy
He sent me an 8x10 picture of Bush and Cheney sneering authoritatively after I sent Norm Coleman a nasty gram. This was regarding his comparison of his own record favorably to the Late Senator Wellstone's.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 04:13 PM
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2. Coleman lies like a dog.
"Although stockpiles of WMDs were not found in Iraq, the facts contained in the Duelfer report show that Saddam Hussein maintained the capacity to rebuild his WMD programs in a short amount of time, and that he was actively undercutting the sanctions against him. Given the multiple sources of pre-war intelligence, as well as the findings of the Duelfer Report, there is little evidence to support the Rycroft memo."

:wtf:
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 04:13 PM
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3. Would you also, please..
.. share your windy reply.

Thanks,
Sue
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 05:28 PM
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10. I'll leave my reply up for a short time.
Edited on Mon Jun-20-05 06:08 PM by mzmolly
Time has expired, as I likes my privacy. ;)
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cureautismnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 05:45 PM
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12. Excellent Response. Call the Lying SOS Out.
You exposed the hypocritical fraud tit-for-tat. Galloway would be proud.
:toast:
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 05:46 PM
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13. Awe thanks.
:blush:
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 04:14 PM
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4. Slimey weasel

He values your advice as much as he values dental floss.
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 04:16 PM
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7. Evil Al?
Edited on Mon Jun-20-05 04:16 PM by Moochy
He looks like an evil Al Franken!

he just needs a goatee...
(on edit all evil versions have goatees)
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 07:20 PM
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21. Uhmmm.... is he wearing lipstick?? n/t
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 04:15 PM
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6. That's so annoying when they just go ahead and spin points
that have been discredited. :grr:
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 06:00 PM
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15. It is. And they all say the same damn thing ... over and over again.
Edited on Mon Jun-20-05 06:01 PM by mzmolly
Goebbles would be proud.

I know ... I know another lame assed Nazi reference. ;)
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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 04:17 PM
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8. Remember this kind of s*** next year, as well as Coleman's...
...declaration that he is "a 99 percent improvement over Paul Wellstone."

Remember that one? Get pissed off and get rid of him next year. I'm embarrassed that this asshole comes from my state and kicks the corpse of Paul Wellstone, MY senator, every time he shows his face in public...
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Snap Donating Member (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 04:20 PM
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9. A _uckin_ Xerox machine?
Perhaps Minnesota can scrape this p.o.s. off of their collective heel.
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 05:32 PM
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11. norm needs to get the hell out of wellstone's seat
what's his popularity like in minnesota? could al franken or someone else take him down?
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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 06:04 PM
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16. perhaps my bias is showing but I find Normie eminently beatable...
...you can't chant slogans for six years and expect people to have any enthusiasm for you.
Coleman, flip-flopper supreme, former DLFer now a Bush sycophant.

I think people are fed up with the constant phony smile (isn't there enough smirking going on?) and his endless repetition of talking points handed him by Bush lackeys......

He got his ass shredded by George Galloway in front of his own damn subcommittee...


but....

figure normie will kiss enough ass to have truckloads of cash, legit and otherwise. Moneywill not be a problem for the Normie campaign.
unfortunately it will get very ugly. Norm lusts to keep that seat so he can be on a national ticket in '08.

he is capable of ANYTHING. keep that in mind.

but!
he is a serial adulterer. His fondness for compliant women may be his downfall.....

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MN ChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 05:59 PM
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14. It's hard to determine just how much Coleman sucks
It's one of those unquantifiables like "how high is up?" He is an unprincipled, weaselly and untrustworthy asshat. If there were cannibals in Minnesota, Normy would immediately promise them fat missionaries for dinner. He will say anything if he thinks there's a vote in it.

God I hate that SOB. :nuke:

And that hair gives me nightmares! :puke: :puke:
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Lone_Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 06:05 PM
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17. Tell him if he honestly believes what he wrote in that letter...
then he's too fucking stupid to represent your state in the Senate. He's a case in point that the chemicals in tooth whiteners are toxic to the brain when used in excess.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 07:14 PM
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18. LOL. I've told him a few things over time. I'm sure I'm on the official
"shit list." ;)
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 07:17 PM
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19. Norm Coleman is a fart in a hurricane.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 07:20 PM
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20. Senator Why Did You Not Let The Inspectors Do Their Job
Everyone thought that Iraq would deny entry to weapons inspectors but they did not and David Kay was in Iraq when they declared war. Answer that one you stupid ASS!
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