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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 05:54 PM
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Poll question: Ed Schultz is a worthless DLC clown.
Edited on Mon Jun-20-05 05:56 PM by BullGooseLoony
Yes? No?
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 05:58 PM
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1. Here is a thread from today on Ed.
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Senior citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 05:59 PM
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2. I was just listening to him insisting that anyone in Gitmo

is bad and deserves to be there. He did let on some mild opposing arguments, only to shoot them down, but he didn't let anyone say, "So why have we let so many of them go after lengthy interrogations?" You don't keep somebody for a few years and torture them, and then decide they're actually innocent and let them go, if everyone there is a bad terrorist. The guy is not only a shill, he's a moran.

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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 06:00 PM
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3. as i keep saying, his show was LAUNCHED by the DLC
a little group called democracy radio-they also put out stephanie miller

of course, clear channel picking up fat ed has pushed him further back to the right
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 06:04 PM
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4. Oh go stuff it in a can! For years we whined when Bush took over that
we had NO VOICE...now we have voices across the spectrum of Dems and folks continue to trash what we have.

makes me wonder. Is Ed Schultz DLC...Probably...yes..but he still does "crossover" and his job isn't to be MOSES leading US...FGS!

Give it up! He's doing a good thing siphoning off Limbaugh and I like him and I'm on the DU spectrum of polls over to the WAY LEFT! :shrug:
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 06:05 PM
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5. And why couldn't he just speak the truth, again,
like, say, Randi Rhodes or Al Franken?

Is he running for office?
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 06:19 PM
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8. Because the "Truth" varies in these times in the US over what
political spectrum you place yourself in. This "Either/Or" Crap wears thin when the Political Climate has a "chance" for change. :shrug:
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 06:23 PM
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11. Are you unsure of what the truth is?
Personally, I think everyone knows the truth- it's just a matter of whether they have the courage to confront it or not.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 06:31 PM
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13. I know what I "think" the truth is...from my background and reading and
years on this planet...which means that what new info I have is always processed into my years and time on this planet and has gone through a long time...of different media, different spins...and my own "life experience." :shrug: that's the best I can do ...is to contribute what my own opinion from my time and experience to the rest of us here on DU.

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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 06:37 PM
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16. Myself, I'm pretty sure that we shouldn't be giving ChimpCo
any credit whatsoever.

They're criminals.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 06:57 PM
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18. That's your Right and Perspective given where YOU ARE on this planet
in your time an space. :shrug: But, please don't try to deny that I might have a longer time span opinion, either.

:-)'s to you...I don't think you were "dissing me" but asking an honest opinion from your own time frame and experience. But, I answered you from my own frame of mind. Okay? Peace!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 06:21 PM
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10. Even Al speaks more truth
I've kept up with him even though I don't listen to him and Franken is more democratic. :shrug:
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 06:15 PM
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6. Keek nt
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 06:17 PM
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7. Do you not want to draw moderates
to the Democratic Party? Do you never want to win an election? I am to the left of most people on most issues. I personally thought Bill Clinton compromised and triangulated on far too many issues. But you know what? I don't think I'm going to get most people to agree completely with my point of view. I think there are those who will always take a more moderate or even conservative view about guns or the troops or immigration or any number of issues. I want those people to vote Democrat. If Ed Schultz makes those moderates feel comfortable being Democrats, more power to him, even if he's not speaking for my point of view.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 06:20 PM
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9. Eh
Dunno. I have listened to him once before but his voice was soooo much like Rush Limbaugh. :shrug: I don't know anything about his policies except he used to be republican and jumped on the democratic band wagon.
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lady lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 06:27 PM
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12. For sure he's not a Randi Rhodes or a Mike Malloy.
Edited on Mon Jun-20-05 06:57 PM by lady lib
He spent years as a conservative radio host, had a conversion thanks to his 2nd wife, and is now (what I would consider) a moderate Dem. I might not agree with him on everything (I don't even come close) and I have no interest in football, golf, hunting, or fishing. But he gets great guests on a daily basis, and there are a lot of Independents and Republicans who are sitting on the fence and they need SOMEONE who speaks their language and knows where they're coming from - Ed is that someone.
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 06:32 PM
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14. He's an asshole is what he is.

the other day he was ranting about the porno actress
going to rhe Pubbie fundraiser and he called her a
"slut" on the air.

Now I don't know about you folks, but anybody who talks
like that has no respect for women.

or is it really true that a women who fucks around is
a ripe candidate for hate speech?

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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 06:34 PM
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15. I have no problem with Ed Schultz being on the radio
I *DO* however have a problem with any broadcast entity which pulls a more outspoken Liberal (i.e. Randi) off the air in order to make room for him, which is sadly the case with many alleged Air America affiliates.

Randi Rhodes and Mike Malloy is exactly what should be on prime time talk radio hours. Hell, I'd go with the Majority Report and Morning Sedition as well. Franken bores the Hell out of me, and I haven't heard enough of the new Jerry Springer show to make a judgment. Certainly there's name recognition with Jerry, and a reputation for a show that certainly could never be called "boring".

We need the voices that are willing to HIT THIS FRAUDMINISTRATION HARD on the air at the times when people would actually be listening. And with radio, that's pretty much 6:00 AM - 6:00 PM, given the workday, morning & evening commute, waking up w/ clock radios, etc. Add on a couple hours to each end to adjust for time zones, but it's primarily a 12 hour window.

AAR needs to hear for their listeners and be encouraged to change programming if neccessary.



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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 07:04 PM
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19.  I might agree except that Schultz isn't going for the Left Intellectuals
Edited on Mon Jun-20-05 07:54 PM by KoKo01
which is the audience those you speak of appeal to. And Thom Hartmann is more MY STYLE Dem than all of them (I find Randi and Franken too loud for me) but I also know that Limbaugh siphoned off voices who were upset in the Dem Party and he got those in their cars and those who work out with portable radios to listen to him because the "Foreman of the Job Site" or whatever has Rush on 24/7 during their working hours.

So, if Schultz (who's a likeable fellow to most average Americans who aren't Policy/Think Tank/or Internet Libereral Wonks) can find an audience where he can get by and increase his viewership even though he has more guests on from our House and Senate talking about the real BILLs they are voting on rather than some of the celebrity hype our more liberal "DJ's" have on their shows...then I say MORE POWER TO ED.

He might not be MY Voice but he sure has folks who might be OPEN TO HIS SHOW. :shrug: Give the Guy a break! We sound like Freepers trashing him...FGS!
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 07:07 PM
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20. Hey....I'm what would be a person who would follow Kucinich & Hartman
off the cliff because to me they might be my own "Pied Piper."

But, I'm kind of wonky and quiet. So, I KNOW FOR SURE...WE DEMS need ALL THE VOICES in the MEDIA we can SUMMON!

And...Schultz is kind of quirky and likeable to this DU'er. :shrug:
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 06:52 PM
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17. DLC assclown. n/t
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 07:09 PM
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21. No, and I have a lot to say about it.
First, in the interest of full disclosure, I disagree with Ed on many things. I've heard him make sexist comments. I've heard him fall flat on his face when asked about issues that every regular reader of DemocraticUnderground.com would already know. My views are considerably to the left of his.

Second, I'm well aware of his background as a former conservative. You can hear it come through every day. He is NOT your garden variety big-city liberal. Hell, he's from Fargo, and grew up in rural Virginia. I know people from North Dakota, and they do not sound like Ed.

Third, I'm well aware of his background as a sportscaster and an ex-jock, and his affinity for fishing and driving a Suburban.

Fourth, and probably most important, he is a terrific radio talent. You'll have to trust me on this one, I know radio.

And last, I know he is backed by the DLC. That's why he regularly gets interviews with influential Democratic senators and representatives, not to mention Bill Clinton. Isn't that a good thing?

Now that I've said this and you have bothered to read this far, I think Ed Schultz is the best god-damned thing to hit radio in a very long time. His entertainment value when he touches on fishing, hunting and guns holds little or no interest for me. The Joe-Sixpack types driving in their pickup trucks listen to guys like Ed. They sure as hell aren't likely to listen to Randi, someone I personally revere.

Ed chose to buck Air America and set out on his own, getting picked up by Jones Radio, even on many stations that broadcast primarily Air America programming. As a result, Ed is broadcast on more stations and has a wider audience than Air America. What's wrong with that?

I'd like to challenge to those who think Ed Schultz ought to be cast off by liberals and progressives. Check the radio ratings in your town. See how Schultz is eroding the ratings of Sean Hannity or any other guy who runs in his time slot. You can do that here:

http://www.radioandrecords.com/RRRatings/

After you've checked, let me know.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 08:20 PM
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22. did ya get any challenges to the RRRatings?
<crickets>









didn't think so.
dp
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 08:46 PM
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23. Nope
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 08:50 PM
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24. I'm not too impressed with Edsh Limshultz
He seems like he wants to be the Rush Limbaugh of the left without moving to the left.

:shrug:
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 08:52 PM
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25. Ed Shultz is WAY too much of an economic populist for the DLC
Shultz is a strong opponent of "free trade" and proponent of universal health care...He is socially conservative and holds a numbers of views that I certainly don't agree with..However, he is essentially a populist----These populist views are way, way beyond the pale for the .DLC
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 09:07 PM
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26. worthless DLC assclown
Anyone who continues to give LIEberman a microphone (which is campaigning) and then defends LIEberman and then goes on to attack good Dems who are sick of b@st@rds with a 'D' after their name but continue to assist the neo-con agenda, IS AN ASSCLOWN.

:beer:
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