UdoKier
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Mon Jun-20-05 06:55 PM
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Poll question: What is your political affiliation? |
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Edited on Mon Jun-20-05 06:55 PM by UdoKier
What is your political affiliation?
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applegrove
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Mon Jun-20-05 06:59 PM
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1. Fiscal conservative, social leftist from somewhere outside the US |
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Mon Jun-20-05 07:03 PM
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Edited on Mon Jun-20-05 07:04 PM by Dr_eldritch
Of Eisenhower and McCain leanings. Chickenhawks are NOT Republican. SUV drivers are NOT Conservative.
I am fiscally conservative, socially liberal, and environmentally moderate, don't you dare try to take my weapons away.
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Tue Jun-21-05 12:42 PM
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4. I don't think there is such a thing as a social leftist. |
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You would be a social libertarian as opposed to an authoritarian, while believing in right-leaning economic ideas like no corporate taxes, low taxes on the super-rich while transferring more of the tax burden to the poor via usage fees, etc. right?
Left-right issues are economic issues. Social/moral questions are libertarian/authoritarian, not left/right.
If you are a "fiscal conservative" just because you believe in balanced budgets, that would still make you a mainstream liberals. Over the last 30 years, democrats have done a much better job at managing the government's purse strings than republicans...
The "great conservative" Reagan never ONCE submitted a balanced budget to Congress.
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Tue Jun-21-05 04:23 PM
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6. I agree that I hate the word "fiscal conservative". I agree it is a |
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liberal thing. I do not go for low corporate taxes. I go for a good transfer of wealth every year so that elites do not skew the democracy or the economy.
As to social policy - I do not see the authoritarian/libertarian mix you do. I'm for national health care policies all across the world. I don't see that as authoritarian so much as efficient and equitable. I and a social policy egalitarian. Because it means there is mobility and every child has a chance. I am interested in the results of social policy ... not the superficial description of how much government is in your life.
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Tue Jun-21-05 04:27 PM
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7. Yeah, I guess there is some overlap. |
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I favor nationalized health care too, but I tend to see it as a purely economic left issue, and you rightly point out that there is a moral imperative to providing health care to all.
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Tue Jun-21-05 04:53 PM
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10. And it works! It keeps costs down for corporations. It makes people |
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healthier and happier and have more preventive medicine. So fewer chronic illnesses. Fewer long term drugs. And it is cheaper on the whole..it keeps prices down. And if the US does it - it keeps the salaries of doctors down - So that the people who go into medicine are not doing it to make a killing - but have a challenging career and accumulate wealth over the long haul (if not accumulating wealth every year). It makes for better markets too. GM didn't close down its plants in Ontario. They are the most efficient ones they have!
So it is not true to say that private medicine or private education can even accomplish what the public education and transfer of wealth can accomplish.
Education, poor relief, shared risk in things like SS, great policing, heath care, etc. All make for a much better economy. So that everyone is better off. But you have to tax for what you get. In Canada there is income tax & sales tax on anything above food. Your teens you get sent out to the mall with $100...they pay $15 tax on whatever they buy. And it works. If you have the excess cash to go shopping for decor items..you help the funding of good schools, health care, and keeping the elites from getting deluded into buying into their own importance.
Sales tax is okay on top of income taxes if it pays for great cities and good health for rural people. Don't you let your WH reform taxes and get rid of income taxes. They are what made the 20th century.
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Mon Jun-20-05 07:01 PM
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2. Anarchist. (aka - Libertarian Socialist) Registered Dem. |
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Tue Jun-21-05 04:29 PM
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Tue Jun-21-05 12:47 PM
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I want to click Green and Socialist! How dare you make me choose!
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Tue Jun-21-05 04:29 PM
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Or unaffiliated Progressive/leftist...
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Tue Jun-21-05 05:18 PM
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I am in favor of the party beginning to take positions more to the left, starting at the local level and working our way up. I have no problem voting for a qualified Green or Socialist candidate.
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