Erika
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Tue Jun-21-05 12:34 AM
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Michael Savage says put Saddam Hussein back in power |
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because he knew how to control the Iraqis. His rant tonight. He says it's well noted history that the U.S. and others set up dictatorships for control purposes. Let's put Hussein back in power so our troops can go home was his message.
I think that is why Reagan/Cheney installed Saddam in Iraq in the first place. Hussein admits that he misses Reagan.
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Tue Jun-21-05 12:37 AM
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1. Being right for the wrong reasons |
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Michael Savage is a broken clock.
Reagan did not install Hussein btw. The Reagan administration supported his regime though.
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Tue Jun-21-05 12:37 AM
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2. Finally, an exit strategy. |
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Tue Jun-21-05 12:40 AM
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Tue Jun-21-05 12:38 AM
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3. May be the one and only time I agree with him nt |
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Tue Jun-21-05 12:53 AM
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12. You're not serious, right? |
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For one thing, there is no way this could happen. The post-Saddam bureacracy we have built is very Shia-centric. How long would Saddam have power over a Shia-dominated state power structure? Secondly, if somehow Saddam didn't get executed immediately or even if he did, a very, very bloody sectarian war erupt the likes of which we haven't come to close yet in Iraq. I mean if the idea wasn't so nonsensical, it would be scary.
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Tue Jun-21-05 10:24 AM
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I'm not sure that a re-installed Saddam with *extremely* intrusive checks on human rights and weapons programs (UN-backed) wouldn't give the Iraqis back a measure of pride and actually lead to greater stability than where they're at now.
But letting him off the hook for mass murder and countless crimes against humanity would never wash with what we should be promoting in the world.
No. Not serious.
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Tue Jun-21-05 12:44 AM
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5. MIKE THE FRUITCAKE...let him tell that to the folks who lost their kin in |
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Tue Jun-21-05 12:45 AM
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6. been our foreign policy for a long time and paleo-cons prefer it |
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Edited on Tue Jun-21-05 12:46 AM by bpilgrim
sure worked better than the neoCONs savagery/'plans'
i still think * gets all his bruises from his old-man kick'n his stupid a$$ for fuck'n EVERYTHING up, whenever he catches him alone :evilgrin:
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Tue Jun-21-05 10:32 AM
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"* gets all his bruises from his old-man kick'n his stupid a$$ for fuck'n EVERYTHING up, whenever he catches him alone"
Ain't that the f'ing truth!
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Tue Jun-21-05 12:46 AM
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7. Savage is insane. This proves it. |
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Heard the show, could not believe he was serious.
But I hope they do it. I pray the Republicans put Saddam back in control of Iraq.
It will be the end of the Republican party for at least a generation.
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Tue Jun-21-05 12:47 AM
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8. Does that guy put *any* effort into being consistent? |
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Edited on Tue Jun-21-05 12:47 AM by Stirk
Seriously- now he's fine with saying the US's standard operating procedure is to set up *dictatorships* (which is as far as you can get from democracy), as a method of control?
Was he not one of the rats who were squeaking on about "spreading democracy"? That the lack of WMD was not a problem, because we'd gone there to liberate the oppressed Iraqis?
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Tue Jun-21-05 12:48 AM
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9. he's a sophist with ratings to worry bout... |
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he's try'n to appeal to the paleo-cons to broaden his 'appeal' :evilgrin:
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Tue Jun-21-05 12:49 AM
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10. This is classic freeper logic you see on FR all the time. |
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What? The Iraqis aren't worshipping us for being liberators? THEN NUKE 'EM!
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Tue Jun-21-05 12:51 AM
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11. I've never agreed with him before. . . |
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but after about 6 months of this war, we predicted we'd be looking for someone like Saddam to take over.
We have learned the answer to the riddle: Is Irag the way it is because Saddam is the way he is, or is Saddam the way he is because Iraq is the way it is? (Hint, it's the latter.)
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Tue Jun-21-05 12:59 AM
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13. No, we have changed a fundamental dynamic in Iraq for ever. |
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Our occupation has managed to disenfranchise the former ruling minority, the Sunnis, and placed the Shia increasingly securely into the center of the power structure. Even if this idea wasn't so crazy and insane as not to merit serious discussion, Saddam could never regain complete control of Iraq, his attempt to restore leadership would end up being te a very, very bloody sectarian war in which, as it stands now, the Shia would end up winning because they hold the keys right now (even if they haven't had them for very long) and they are a sizeable majority. The only context in which this Savage quote has any merit is as an illustration of how the conservatives have gone from "liberation cakewalk" to "those fucking Iraqis, damn them... it's their own fault."
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Tue Jun-21-05 01:19 AM
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14. "Psychological Nudity" indeed. |
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I heard that segment. The Weenie really is insane. But, hey, it pays in NeoCon World.
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Tue Jun-21-05 10:28 AM
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16. " Is Iraq the way it is because of Saddam or is Hussein |
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the way he is because of Iraq?" That was one of the questions asked before the war and it is relevant still.The notion that we could impose a Western style government on this region was/is a pipe dream that only a Tom Friedman could continue to hallucinate about.
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Tue Jun-21-05 10:50 AM
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18. Would you really be surprised if BushCo. did just that? |
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With Saddam back as President of Iraq:
1) The current BushCo. deal to keep all the U.S. military bases there in Iraq would remain.
2) The current BushCo. deal to keep Iraqi oil would remain.
3) Iraq could go back to the good ole' days of fighting Iran, only this time, Iraq and the U.S. can fight Iran together.
4) Saddam would not have to air any dirty laundry about Republican Administrations in the United States at his war crimes trial.
5) BushCo. distracts attention from the BushCo. lies leading up to the Iraq war and cools investigations into the BushCo. lies by ending the war (only in Iraq though) since 'Saddam knows how to deal with the Iraqis.'
Nothing would surprise me about this bunch.
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