Congress has already passed leg. to drug YOUR kids, here is the downlow

[Melodybe]

One of the petitions I have on my table is a petition in support for HR181, the Let Parents Raise Their Kids Act, written by Republican Representative Ron Paul. This is a big deal, ever read Brave New World? Well, that is what this legislation is all about. Tucked away in the Omnibus Spending Bill in December millions of dollars we allocated for the implementation of this program. This has ALREADY passed, thanks to the lobbyists of big pharmaceuticals our tax dollars are being spent to screen children for mental illness, once diagnosed they are required to take the medications prescribed to them. Their parents have NO say in this! They are NOT allowed to get a second opinion. If the parents argue or refuse to put their children on the meds, they could face parental neglect charges. I have called and written numerous emails to many in the corporate "news" media, that was months ago. Since you probably haven't heard about it, you can see how well they covered it.

Remember a time where every other commercial on television wasn't an ad for some miracle pill you should ask your doctor about? Well, when they made advertising prescription drugs legal this is the effect, NONE of the major "news" outlets will touch it, else they loose the BILLIONS of dollars they make every year in advertising.

Here is a link to a great explanation of the program and it's first lawsuit:

http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/061405Pringle/061405pringle.html

here is a link to everyone in the corporate, we're fine with the government drugging your kids, cause mine are in private school, whores:

http://www.rumormillnews.com/MEDIA_EMAIL_ADDRESSES.htm

Please, I beg you send this to everyone you know. Write a letter to the editor, write an e-mail to the corporate whores that refuse to cover it.

Thanks a lot,
Melody

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. Bush can't pass legislation. Only Congress can do that.

But obviously he strongarmed his lackeys in Congress into voting for this crap.

[Melodybe]

4. It's his progam! It WAS passed in December!

It's a done deal and I've been talking about it for months, please contact your local papers about this.

Please.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

7. I'm not saying it hasn't happened.

Only making the point that a president can't "pass" any kind of legislation. Only Congress can pass legislation. Presidents can submit proposed legislation, and for some things can issue executive orders. But they can't make laws. Just being technical. What's the name of the law?

[Melodybe]

10. It goes by the New Freedom Commission

Here is a writing by Ron Paul about New Freedom Commission:

The Therapeutic Nanny State

by Rep. Ron Paul, MD

Last week I wrote about a presidential initiative called the “New Freedom Commission on Mental Health,” which issued a report calling for the mandatory mental health screening of American schoolchildren. This new proposal threatens to force millions of kids to undergo psychiatric screening, whether their parents consent or not. At issue is the fundamental right of parents to decide what medical treatment is appropriate for their children.

I introduced an amendment to eliminate any funding for the proposal in a Department of Education and Department of Health and Human Services spending bill. Although the amendment failed, the response to my office has been overwhelming and highly supportive. The notion of federal bureaucrats ordering potentially millions of youngsters to take psychotropic drugs like Ritalin strikes an emotional chord with American parents, who are sick of relinquishing more and more parental control to government.

Some members of Congress objected to my amendment on the grounds that the federal screening program does not yet exist, so it’s premature to oppose it. But the whole point was to prevent the proposal from being implemented in the first place. Once created, federal programs are nearly impossible to eliminate. Congress had a rare opportunity to stop a bad idea in its tracks, before it becomes entrenched. Every member who opposes the idea of forcing kids to undergo mental health screening should have sent a strong statement by voting for my amendment. They will have another chance to kill the initiative when I introduce a stand-alone bill later this year.

Furthermore, it’s not true that no money has been allocated for the proposal. The Appropriations committee, which distributes your tax dollars to the various federal agencies, specifically allotted $20 million in the HHS/Education bill for state programs in support of the New Freedom commission report. These federally-funded state programs will be the precursors of the broader federal program recommended by the commission.

Anyone who understands bureaucracies knows they assume more and more power incrementally. A few scattered state programs over time will be replaced by a federal program implemented in a few select cities. Once the limited federal program is accepted, it will be expanded nationwide. Once in place throughout the country, the screening program will become mandatory. This is why we can never trust new bureaucratic programs: no matter how benevolent their proponents claim them to be, most programs morph into something much larger than originally foreseen. Those who view my concerns as alarmism fail to understand the inevitable nature of bureaucratic growth.

Soviet communists attempted to paint all opposition to the state as mental illness. It now seems our own federal government wants to create a therapeutic nanny state, beginning with schoolchildren. It’s not hard to imagine a time 20 or 30 years from now when government psychiatrists stigmatize children whose religious, social, or political values do not comport with those of the politically correct, secular state.

American parents must do everything they can to remain responsible for their children’s well-being. If we allow government to become intimately involved with our children’s minds and bodies, we will have lost the final vestiges of parental authority. Strong families are the last line of defense against an overreaching bureaucratic state.

September 21, 2004

[Melodybe]

19. Please remember to nominate, else the DU memory hole will eat it.

[hippiepunk]

2. scary shit

:wow: :scared:

[Fire Walk With Me]

3. Bush? Chumming with people after billions? Couldn't happen

:sarcasm:

This is chilling. Let the flip side be public intolerance of runaway self-interest/profits.

[cynatnite]

5. Do you have a link for the bill?

I'd like to read it before acting on it.

Thanks

[Melodybe]

6. I never could find a bill for the actual legislation, trust me I looked!

Here is a link to HR181, the Let Parents Raise Their Kids Act, that was voted DOWN 312-81. The bill added parental consent to the law.

Here:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:H.R.181.IH:


To sign the petition:
http://www.thelibertycommittee.org/pcapetition.htm

[w8liftinglady]

24. a few links

http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/newfreedom/

http://www.sierratimes.com/05/05/16/24_209_102_203_25370.htm

[bhikkhu]

8. From experience, this is a horrible idea

I had a daughter with some behavioral problems. She had been a very bright student, and we went throught the whole process of docs and meds in the hopes of keeping her on a good academic course. Behavior became "fine", but the girl I knew was hardly a shadow, her eyes were cold and dull...the doctors were pleased, but we felt like we were killing the girls soul. Our "out" was med-caused liver failure.
Since then, no meds, only a good lowfat diet and regular exercise, and she is brighter than ever, and a joy.

The doctor was adamant that we switch her to lithium at the earliest possible point of physical recovery, and even threatened to notify child protective services. I can't imagine the long term hell other parents are put through, and I can't imagine all the drug-numb minds of children ...

Don't believe any of the crap the drug companies and psychologists spout about COBPD and ADHD - this is a seriously bad deal.

[Melodybe]

9. I wish that more DUer's would pay attention to this

I have talked about it here for months, but as usual whenever it comes up people claim they had no idea.

Well this is a big freaking deal!!!!

Please for the love of your children, PAY ATTENTION TO THIS!

bhikkhu, I'm glad to hear about your daughter's recovery, I'm sorry that you had to go through it. Please email this to everyone you know, it is very real and extremely important.

[Lucky Luciano]

11. I would think even teh Freepers

would be opposed to this ridiculous legislation. Government interference and all...government subisidized medicine and all...

[Melodybe]

12. They are, when it passed they were saying all kinds of awesome stuff

that we say all the time, 1984 references, Brave New World references, calling it the USSA, talking about Stalin and comparing him to Bush, they were pissed!

I guess cause they never heard about it again in the corporate media and they assumed it wasn't gonna happen.

I wish someone would post a link to the onlinejournal article over there, if we ever wanted a republican wedge issue this is it.

[neweurope]

28. Lithium for a child? That's criminal.

Oh my God - I had read about this bill here on DU and always wondered why people weren't up in arms about it. Here in Germany nobody believes me when I mention it.

----------

Remember Fallujah

Bush to The Hague!

[satya]

13. I found this in the Congressional Record of the 108th Congress:

beginning on page H6943.

It seems as though Ron Paul was concerned that universal mental health screening could be mandated by regulation. Although there are no provisions or funds specifically earmarked for this purpose, remarks later in the record indicate some support for the concept of universal mental health screening. Rep. Paul proposed an amendment to make sure that this could not happen, but the amendment did not pass.

DEPARTMENTS OF LABOR, HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES, AND EDUCATION, AND RELATED AGENCIES APPROPRIATIONS ACT, 2005 -- (House of Representatives - September 09, 2004) (this became Division F of HR4818, signed into law 12/8/2004)

Mr. PAUL. Mr. Chairman, my amendment says that no funds in this bill will be permitted to be used to institute system of universal mental health screening . The New Freedoms Commission on Mental Health , a commission established in 2002, has recommended universal mental health screening for all our children in our public schools as well as adults who work in these schools. As a medical doctor, as a civil libertarian, and a strict constitutionist, I strongly reject this notion, this plan, as dangerous and nonproductive.

Regula and Paul discussed whether the amendment was necessary:

Mr. REGULA. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.

Mr. Chairman, I am a little baffled by this, because there is nothing in this bill to establish the universal mental health screening . I do not know what the need for the amendment is. I understand what the concern of the gentleman is if this were the case, but we do not have it. There is no requirement, there is no money, there is no action.

Mr. PAUL. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield?

Mr. REGULA. I yield to the gentleman from Texas.

Mr. PAUL. Mr. Chairman, that is correct, there is no money specified for this. But on previous legislation, the authority exists for us to be involved in mental health . The particular bill's mental health services, it is on the books. The legislative authority is there. It could be done by regulation.

I am just saying you are correct, it is not on there, so there should be no objection, is my interpretation. It is just a protection, a statement by the House that we do not like this idea because this is a recommendation from a commission set up by the administration, and I would like to cut it off before it gets very far.

Regula insists that the New Freedom Commission did not propose universal screening.

Mr. REGULA. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.

Mr. Chairman, I just want to point out that this is the President's new Freedom Commission on Mental Health, and it is titled, ``Achieving the Promise. Transforming Mental Health Care in America.'' But nowhere in this report does it propose universal mental health screening.

[Iowa]

14. Sounds incredibly intrusive....

I worked in the mental health field for many years. The system is over-burdened and the professionals who work in the field aren't looking for new customers. The last thing they need is for some half-assed screening through the schools to throw up a ton of false positives. It would be a complete waste of everyone's time and resources, stigmatize kids unnecessarily, and harm many families and children.

But most importantly, it would be an incredible invasion of privacy. Kids shouldn't have to fend off fumbling, bumblimg attempts to probe their psyche with blunt instruments - and parents have enough to do without protecting their kids from such assaults.

I find it hard to believe anyone would even propose this, let alone approve it. Where exactly is the legislation? I'd like to see the wording.

[Melodybe]

15. Well I can't find it, all I can find is Paul's legislation that was voted

down, the White House site, and this onlinejournal article, that says a set of parents is suing because their daughter was tested without their permission and that Teenscreen is in a number of states.

Good luck finding the details I've been looking for months.

[bananas]

20. New Freedom Commission established by Executive Order 13263

The New Freedom Commission was established by Executive Order 13263
The commission is finished, it issued it's final report and disbanded.
The report recommended mandatory screening,
as well as some other controversial things.
I don't think this needs new legislation to be passed,
it's just a policy decision by the bureaucracy,
and the president is the top bureaucrat.
You can read the report and executive order at their website
http://www.mentalhealthcommission.gov

Here's some relevant web pages I found:
http://www.mindfreedom.org/mindfreedom/bush_psychiatry.shtml
http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2004/06/23/bush_to_impose_psychiatric_drug_regime.htm

[WillowTree]

27. You keep saying that H.R.181 has been "voted down"...

....but all I can find is this

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:h.r.00181:

which indicates that it's still in committee. When was the vote you speak of taken?

[Shallah Kali]

16. google New Freedom Mental Health

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=new+freedom+mental+health

Critics See Drug Industry Behind Mental Health Plan
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1020-20.htm

[ninkasi]

17. Sounds to me like their objectives are twofold

One, of course, is to funnel even more money to big pharmaceuticals. The other is to use mental health screening as a weapon to brand liberals, or people who oppose their agenda, as mentally unstable.

This is absolutely the worst kind of intrusion into the rights to privacy,and even conservatives should be alarmed by such legislation. I thought the cons wanted absolute control over their children, and themselves. Letting something like this be implemented proves them to be nothing but hypocrites.

[cthrumatrix]

22. big Pharma OWNS our govt. - ask Bill Frisk how much $$$ he gets

and what his stance on Autism and the CDC data.

I'm sure he will be very forthcoming.

[LiberalUprising]

18. Medication madness (Dallas Morning News)

Aliah's case raises troubling questions about the coercive uses of psychiatric medications. But because Aliah lives in Texas, and because her commitment was involuntary, she became vulnerable to an even further hazard: aggressive drug regimens that feature new and controversial drugs – regimens that are promoted by drug companies, mandated by state governments and imposed on captive patients with no say over what's prescribed.

School officials considered Aliah disruptive and placed her in a special education track. Her parents, Calvin and Anaka Gleason, viewed her as a spirited child who was bright but had a tendency to argue and clown. Then one day, psychologists from the University of Texas visited the school to conduct a mental health screening for girls, and Aliah's life took a dramatic turn.

A few weeks later, a UT psychologist told the Gleasons their daughter had scored high on a suicide rating and needed further evaluation.

The Gleasons reluctantly agreed to have Aliah see a UT consulting psychiatrist. She concluded that Aliah was suicidal but did not hospitalize her. Six weeks later, in January 2004, a child-protection worker went to Aliah's school, interviewed her, then summoned Mr. Gleason to the school and told him to take Aliah to Austin State Hospital, a state mental facility. He refused, and after a heated conversation, she placed Aliah in emergency custody and had a police officer drive her to the hospital.

The Gleasons would not be allowed to see or even speak to their daughter for the next five months, and Aliah would spend a total of nine months in a state psychiatric hospital and residential treatment facilities. While hospitalized, she was placed in restraints more than 26 times and medicated – without her parents' consent – with at least 12 different psychiatric drugs, many of them simultaneously.

http://sensiblyeclectic.com/b2evolution/blogs/index.php/mainsite/2005/06/21/medication_madness

[StaggerLee]

23. This is insane if this is true

No parent should be kept from their child! And when she was receiving "medical" treatment no less!

:mad:

[Deja Q]

21. People say that they're safe because they're in private schools. How long

before an 'amendment' is made? I don't think any children is going to be left behind on this one...

[Pacifist Patriot]

32. Yes, this is just one more reason added to the list of

hundreds of why we homeschool. It's also why I keep a really sharp eye on such legislation and try to fight against it as much as possible. This little known addendum was actually moderately publicized (if one knew where to look) before the legislation passed. I contacted my representatives but once again it was like pissing into a wind tunnel.

[earth mom]

35. Are homeschoolers exempt?

Or is this just a way to hide? I've been considering homeschooling for several reasons-not religious ones. Ever since I first heard rumors about this I knew that it would be over my dead body before they medicated my child by governmental order! I am so out of this country if this happens! :mad:

[Pacifist Patriot]

36. If I'm not mistaken...and a legislative expert can certainly correct me...

I suppose it is a way of hiding, but it also makes us exempt. By virtue of hiding. Does that make sense? We do not fall under the same requirements as children in public schools. For instance, my son's private information is not required to be made available to military recruiters as stipulated by NCLB. In my state, my child is not required to take standardized tests. He's exempt because he's not in the system. It kind of works hand in hand.

[earth mom]

40. Thank you! I will check with my state. eom

[katinmn]

25. We discussed this on Saturday. (link.) Many refuse to believe

it's happening because it hasn't been announced to the schools. Still, we need to stay on top of this! Thanks for starting your thread, Melody.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3891897

[Maraya1969]

26. Check out these diagnosis !

If a teen doesn't like doing math assignments, parents should not worry. TeenScreen may determine that the child simply has a mental illness known as developmental-arithmetic disorder.

There's also a diagnosis for those children who like to argue with their parents, they may be afflicted with a mental illness known as oppositional-defiant disorder.

And for anybody critical of the of the above two disorders, they may be suffering the mental illness called noncompliance-with-treatment disorder.

No kidding, these illnesses are included in the more than 350 "mental disorders" listed in the American Psychiatric Association's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, the insurance billing bible for mental disorders.

[Mnemosyne]

29. These sob's poison children and adults with their

pharmaceuticals and toxins and then make more huge profits from the backlash of suffering they create. They are CREATING many of these "mental disorders" and then profiting from them.

I suffer from mercury/chemical poisoning, the mercury poisoning started in childhood, it gave me symptoms of bipolar disorder. It destroyed my life. They shoved $27,000 worth of drugs down me in 2 1/2 years to "help" me, all they did was create a state of metabolic dementia which has been horrible to recover from. I sat on the end of the couch for most of that time. I lost my life.

The mercury preservative thimerasol in vaccinations has done horrible things to our children , mentally, emotionally and physically, and finally Robert Kennedy has found proof of the cover up by the greedy pharmas that has damaged so many kids and has been denied for too long.

The mercury in our environment is also to blame. If one drop can render fish in a 10 acre lake inedible, what the hell do the tens of thousands of pounds in our enviro do to all of us???!!!

There's not much hope for me, but I will fight to the death to awaken others to the horrible effects of mercury and pharmaceuticals they poison children and adults with.

This legislation is an abomination for all. It will destroy kids for life in many instances!! God how I hate these bastards! I know what they did to me and it rips my heart to pieces knowing they are increasing their destruction of our children!! Words can not begin to express my hatred of these bastards!!!

PLEASE, anyone with children in school, fight this with every part of your beings!!! I speak from experience of the destruction this will cause your children. I was a very bright child, full of life and their regulations took my life away. Don't let them take away your child's potential!! A life lost to these drugs is almost unbearable, many days it's all I can do to keep from ending the horrible pain, physical and emotional. Do not let them do this to your kids!! It is hell on Earth.

[holboz]

30. Kick - and sending an e-mail to EVERYONE I know.

I don't care what someone's political affiliation is, if you're a parent this is enough to scare the piss out of you.

[doni_georgia]

31. It's been happening in schools for a while

I am a teacher and I know of many teachers who have referred kids to the social worker because their parents weren't giving them their meds for ADHD. I have been under pressure from my son's school to put him on meds for some time. Every time we have an IEP they ask if I have put him on medication yet. I have tried explaining that there isn't a prescribed medication for treating autism. When I started teaching, we were not allowed to mention medication. That isn't the case any longer. I had a kid in my class this year who was severely ADHD. His mom lost her job (and subsequently her insurance) at the beginning of the year, so the kid went off his medication. It was rough on the kid and rough on me, but I refused to turn his mom in to DFACs simply because she couldn't afford to medicate her kid. Instead I tried several different behavior interventions until I found something that worked. Unfortunately most of the teachers I know would have written the DFACs referral.

[Pacifist Patriot]

33. Bless you. What a gifted teacher you are.

[Iowa]

41. Good for you!

We need more professionals like you. When my kids were in school we used to request specific teachers, and we always got them. You would have been on our list as one of the best.

Also, it takes real gall for the people at your IEP meeting to pressure you into medicating your child. Who would know better than you what your child needs?!?! And you being a teacher! They should respect your knowledge and experience. I attended many IEP meetings and I always despised them. They usually involve a group of professionals coming in with a set agenda to push upon a parent (usually a mother who is there all by herself). I respect you tremendously for facing that every year and holding firm.

[cthrumatrix]

34. THIS is why the CDC Cover-up with Eli Lilly and Merck is importnant

support Robert Kennedy Jr's efforts.

[whatever4]

37. Wow. Just...wow. There's another story on it today

Unbelievable. But, not so much anymore.

Want to make sure you saw this story today,

http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/062105Pringle/062105pringle.html

Special Report

TeenScreen sets up shop In Illinois

By Evelyn Pringle
Online Journal Contributing Writer

June 21, 2005—A controversial plan to screen all Illinois school children for mental health disorders is set to become a reality on June 30, if the governor accepts the final proposal from the Illinois Children's Mental Health Partnership (ICMHP).

Illinois became the first state to hop on the bandwagon for President Bush's New Freedom Commission's (NFC) plan to subject all American school children to mental health screening. In 2003, Illinois lawmakers passed the $10 million Illinois Children's Mental Health Act (ICMHP), creating a Children's Mental Health Partnership, which many expect to become a model for other states.

[donsu]

38. kick

nt

[Melodybe]

39. kick

[LiberalUprising]

42. kick