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southernleftylady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 06:33 PM
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Married men earn more if wives do the chores-study
LONDON (Reuters) - Married men earn more than bachelors so long as their wives stay at home doing the housework, according to a report on Wednesday from Britain's Institute for Social and Economic Research (ISER).
Academics Elena Bardasi and Mark Taylor found that a married man whose wife does not go out to work but is primarily responsible for the cooking and cleaning earns about 3 percent more than comparably employed single men.

But that wage premium disappears if wives go out to work themselves or don't do most of the housework.

"It has been fairly well documented that married men earn more than single men," Taylor, a labour economist, told Reuters.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050621/od_uk_nm/oukoe_life_wages;_ylt=AnuObpSOoSjxOjLU4rAUU8ftiBIF;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl
lol what do you think? ;)
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 06:35 PM
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1. Good old fashioned bread winners....working 60 to 80 hours/week
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 06:42 PM
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6. It is easier to work longer hours
If you don't have anything to worry about when you go home, if you can just relax when you are not at work. My father-in-law was like that. He didn't have to worry about anything besides work.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 06:42 PM
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7. Do married women earn more if their husbands do the chores?
Just asking.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 06:54 PM
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12. I believe that there is still a wage/salary differential between....
...men and women who do identical work and have identical qualifications for many of the jobs available, sad to say. Then of course there is the "glass ceiling" still enforced on many managerial and professional positions. I think the big difference still comes between the education level differences obtained by spouses. I doubt if five years of Bush and republican economic destruction has altered any of this, or if it has, it's been for the worst. Just how many high paying jobs have been outsourced overseas in the past five years? That will be a great PhD dissertation for some doctoral candidate to tackle. Title: "The Great Supply Side Economics Fraud of the 21st Century"
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 06:38 PM
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2. well, I think the three percent differential is more than offset...
...by the loss of a second household wage earner, is what I think. Sheesh.

Disclaimer: I'm a SINGLE male who does all his own housekeeping, thank you very much. I'm still struggling to teach the cats to run the vacuum cleaner. It's been an uphill battle....
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freeplessinseattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 06:38 PM
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3. um, maybe the wives go to work bc their husbands don't
make enough. what a misleading headline.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 06:40 PM
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4. Yeah ... it's the cost of "getting a life" I guess.
Some married men put their "life" in a trust with their wife. :shrug:
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the_spectator Donating Member (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 06:41 PM
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5. I can buy it, but cause and effect are mixed up here -
Most women work now, and the idea that women should do ALL the housework is no longer accepted without a thought.

Surely what this "study" simply means is that men who EARN MORE MONEY are more likely to 1)HAVE wives and 2)have wives that will stay at home and do all the housework! Women must be slightly more willing to do that for men who bring more money to the equation, and who also can thereby afford to have a wife that doesn't work!

So often studies like this seem to mix up cause and effect.
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 06:44 PM
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8. My wife makes more than me...
and I could not be happier. I never understood that crap about guys needing to make more. When I speak about this issue, and a guy spews that crap, I always ask, "if you make $10,000, would you prefer your wife make $10,000 also or $30,000?" Needless to say, they always go with the higher amount.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 12:03 PM
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17. Yep.
My wife works full-time, and makes a good salary. I'm retired, and have a good income. The dishes are done, the floors are clean, the laundry is folded and put away. Now I can be on DU for two more hours, until the girls get home to start summer vacation. Then I'll get the apron back on, and start cooking the evening meal. By gosh, I might pull out Lennon's "Double Fantasy" tonight.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 06:45 PM
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9. When was this study done? The mid-fifties?
What a pile of horse hockey! :eyes:
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 11:53 AM
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14. This.Is.A.BRITISH.Study
What does "fixed" mean again??? :freak:
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 06:48 PM
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10. Yeah? Well, if I don't get a husband and don't do chores, I'll earn more.
Study that, ISER.

And maybe they're earning more because they're being paid more on the basis that their employers think a sole "breadwinner" married man somehow deserves more pay.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 06:48 PM
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11. The more control you have over every aspect of your life - the freer
you are to be creative. By not doing to chores..one would have much more freedom to devote to work. It is the secretaries and the underlings who have the most stress.

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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 11:49 AM
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13. What I want to know
is, don't the couples where both work and they hire someone to cook and clean make more?

Ah, causation! You mean, it's only those who make more money that CAN hire someone to do that for them? Well, who'da thunk it?

:eyes:

This study seems to be going at their conclusions kind of back-asswards to me. Who can best afford to have one partner stay home doing traditional household chores? A couple that has one high earner. In a partnership with one non-working spouse, who usually does the household chores? Well, duh.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 11:54 AM
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15. So did they have a test group of wives who went to work
while their husbands stayed home and scrubbed the toilet bowl that they interviewed? Or, did they have those who went to work of both sexes, who could hire a housekeeper, tested as well?

I didn't think so.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 11:56 AM
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16. Are they serious?
As a woman I think this is disgusting and if I wanted to work and help my family or have a life outside of the home I damn well will have a career. :mad:
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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 12:10 PM
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18. Once again it is ALL THE WOMAN'S FAULT!
The headline should read, "Men aren't either intelligent or sturdy enough to concentrate on both career and home."
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