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wurzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 08:12 PM
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Is the GOP claiming it is impossible for an American to behave like a Nazi
That is a dangerously stupid idea. Every country has people in it capable of behaving that way. Lynching is in living memory in this country. Ever take a look at our jails? Remember Mai Lia? We have used napalm in Iraq. We have probably killed and maimed more people in more different countries than any other nation in history. Do the idiots running this country seriously believe there is some kind of gene that makes Americans more humane than any other people? Does that include the Mafia and the KKK and the convicted guards from that Iraqi prison? Do we have no crimes, rape, and violence here because we are Americans? Without proper leadership our soldiers are as capable of atrocities as any other group of armed men. Unless we understand this, what downward spiral of the reputation of our contry will continue.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 08:14 PM
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1. my country, right or-- well, it's always right....
Same shit, different day.
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samdogmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 08:14 PM
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2. They already have!
Who are they fooling? Some of us can see the forest for the trees!
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 08:14 PM
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3. Actually...
I think they're just more concerned with calling such behavior what it really is.

The reTHUGs are all about playing word games, ya know.
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 08:15 PM
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4. not to mention genocide committed against native Americans
I'd say that qualifies as a Nazi-like history
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wurzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 08:18 PM
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6. Well I wanted to stick to recent history
But you are perfectly correct. Before that was the civil war and what a butchery that was.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 08:16 PM
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5. Because They Sure Act Like Nazis
Fuck 'em... really!
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 08:23 PM
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7. Yes...
It is easier to believe that the Nazis were some kind of inhuman, demonic monsters whose evil was absolutely unique to one time and place. Most people (not just Republicans) would rather believe this than accept that they were pretty much ordinary people who bought into some Really Bad Ideas and consequently did Really Bad Things.

Tucker
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wurzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 08:54 PM
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9. And some really bad leaders.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 08:53 PM
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8. The Republicans Condone Torture.
The Republicans Condone The Torture at Guantanamo.
The Republicans Ordered The Torture at Guantanamo.
The Republicans Are, In Fact, Nazis
No Apology Neccesary.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 08:57 PM
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10. "Nazi" is too loaded a word. Many who lost someone in the Holocaust
think it trivializes Nazism to equate it with Republicanism. They do have a point.

Republicanism is bad enough without having to hyperbolize it.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 09:00 PM
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11. Likewise...
lets not be afraid to call evil by it's name.


Not meaning to lay on the hyperbole or trivialize history... but geez, how much more like nazis do these right wing fascists need to be before we can actually call 'em nazis.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 09:01 PM
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12. Why call them Nazis? They're Republicans, Bushists, even fascists.
Nazis were members of the German National Socialist Party and its wannabe offshoots all over the world. They're fascists, yes. Not Nazis.
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wurzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 10:04 PM
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14. We are not talking about "Republicanism". We are talking about behavior
It is equally dangerous to suggest we have to get to the point of a Holocaust to recognize a trend toward Nazism. Germans did not start out the way they ended. It took nearly twenty years to get from the beer halls to the concentration camps. Step by step. From accepting the prostitution of their legal system, corruption of their politics, relentless propaganda, and excusing brutal behavior by their military.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 10:11 PM
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15. Then call it fascism, if you want.
Nazism is something else.
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wurzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 08:40 AM
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16. Sorry, we are talking at crossed purposes.
I have no objections to the word facism, and prefer it. But I was using "Nazi", because of the Durbin flap. You point about using the Nazi is right on, and Durbin would not have had so much trouble, and have been more accurate had he used "Fascist".
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 09:02 PM
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13. Ask Bush, his Dad financed the Nazi war machine until forced to stop
10 months after war was declared. They are using the Nazi play book as we speak.
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