Jon Stewart mentiond DSM and is covering the Conyers hearing

[burythehatchet]

The Daily Show

[burythehatchet]

1. YES YES YES YES

I KNEW THE BREAT FEEDING BABY WOULD MAKE IT ON THE DAILY

[napi21]

6. WHY would anyone breast feed their baby when they knew

c-span was filming? I have no problem with someone breastfeeding their baby, but I don't want to watch, let alone on TV!

[Cleita]

10. That's a DUer.

She flew from San Francisco with her one year old to be there. Cut her some slack. Breast feeding a baby when you have to isn't a crime. I didn't see any breast there. "Desperate Housewives" shows a lot more.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

12. I found that he demeaned the significance of the hearing by focusing

on her.

[Cleita]

14. Actually C-Span showed very little of her panning at an

angle that enabled Maxine Waters to be in front of her. I don't know where Jon got that footage.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

16. There were a bunch of other cameras there. n/t

[napi21]

17. It's great that she flew to DC to be there, but please sit behind the

camera. Maybe it's just 'cause I'm old, but I would never have breast fed my kids in public, let alone on camera. I think, in this case, it detracts from what's going on in these hearings.

[Cleita]

36. Wouldn't screaming baby have been a bigger distraction.

Anything that mother could have done other than to feed the baby would have been a distraction. The room was so small that even leaving would have been a distraction and what a shame that would have been after flying coast to coast to be there.

[CatWoman]

48. good point, Cleita

:hi:

I mean, "Cleita the Wise" :D

[question everything]

55. So she could have exited the room for feeding the baby

Several weeks ago we've had here a whole thread about breast feeding in public about it being "natural and healthy" and some of us thought, still think, that so are intercourse and giving birth but no one is doing this in public.

[Pachamama]

56. Maybe because there was no way to exit the room easily !

Maybe it was because the hallway outside of the hearing room was packed and crowded, there were no places to sit, no bathroom nearby, only boiler rooms and janitorial closets and she had been traveling all night long with her child clear across the country and had been waiting outside for nearly an hour and her child was tired and hungry? :shrug:

Maybe because there were some very valid reasons....

[question everything]

62. If the room was packed, then one more person, or two,

would not have made a difference.

Sometimes we need to show up to increase the mass but, obviously, there was no need in this case. She should not have planted herself right behind a speaker... could have taken a back seat. Yes, she had a choice. No doubt these seats were the first to be taken. At the very least, she could have covered herself with a light cloth. Many nursing women do this.

The bottom line is, while a nursing mother think that her breast is the most beautiful thing in the world, most of us do not and I don't see why she thinks that her views should prevail. Nursing women claim that they should not be forced to stay at home... true, but being stuck in a stuffy, packed room is really not the only alternative, certainly not the healthiest atmosphere for a baby with so many coughing, sneezing, etc. A very selfish behavior, when it comes down to it

[Democrat 4 Ever]

67. Sorry, I don't buy it. Think the event was used as an opportunity

to push an agenda of breastfeeding in public. Carry over from the whole Barbara Walters dust up a couple of weeks back. Very admirable that the mother traveled a great distance to attend the hearing but she showed an incredible lack of judgment and respect for the Congress people, the witnesses and the audience. She gave - gave the media an excuse to ridicule the entire event. Are people stupid about this issue? Of course, but pick your battles and don't kill others in your quest to make a point.

Baby hungry, step outside, child comes first but there were ways to feed a child without ENSURING you have a national audience (she KNEW she was in front of the cameras). I am not shocked or offended by a mother breastfeeding her child in public BUT this event was already suffering of the perceived "wackiness" of illegitimacy by the re pugs. Just those weird Dem's at it again. Confers, et al were there to be taken seriously but they suffered from a terrible basement venue and less than perfect audio and video equipment. They had important and serious issues, heavy weight speakers to try and get vital information before the public and then see their work become a 10-second joke for people who are already so uptight they creak when they walk. No matter what your position on breastfeeding it was neither the time nor the place to jeopardize the legacy of the hearing.

Terrible timing and lack of respect. Flame away.

[burythehatchet]

68. best worded response - I feel the same

[knitter4democracy]

71. Oh, yeah, I always thought of my breastfeeding agenda!

I breastfed both of mine long-term (four and a half years total), and whenever I needed to nurse mine, the very first thing on my mind was the breastfeeding, feminazi agenda. :eyes: I never thought of keeping my child quiet and fed appropriately or anything. Nope. It was all to undermine what was going on and to force everyone to accept breastfeeding in public.

:sarcasm:

Honestly--she probably didn't think much beyond making sure that she had a good nursing outfit on that would ensure no one actually seeing anything. She had a baby who needed to nurse, and she nursed him. End of story. If it really bothers you that much, it tells me more about you than it does about her.

Of course it gave ammo to the opposition: so did the lights turning off and the crappy mikes. Are you going to rant and rave about those, too? Oh--you mentioned them but were more upset about a woman feeding her baby. :eyes:

Lack of respect is what you're showing by getting all upset about a woman feeding her baby rather than have a screaming kid. Her baby was too young to leave alone with anyone else, and she needed to be there. Get over it.

[REP]

57. Why Bring a Baby To A Hearing?

Isn't that a little inappropriate and a little disrespectful of the procedings? Babies do cry and do get hungry - yes, so keeping that in mind, it might be a good idea to keep them where they might not be a distraction from an important hearing.

[Swamp Rat]

58. Because they were personally invited by Rep. John Conyers?

What a beautiful baby!

[REP]

59. What Did He Expect A Baby To Get Out Of The Hearing?

I seriously doubt the baby was expected to attend; I suspect a sitter could not be found or the mother did not fully consider that her infant might cause a distraction to the importance of what was being discussed.

If he did expect a baby to attend, well - what did he expect the infant to get out of the experience, I wonder?

[Swamp Rat]

60. Why don't you write him for an explanation then?

The baby did not bother me at all. In fact, it was kinda nice seeing an American mom with her baby doing their patriotic duty. My 73 year old dad told me that he thought it was a wonderful thing to see too.

[REP]

61. I'm Sure He Did!

I know a 41-year old who wished there'd been a longer view of the breast, and less baby obscuring it!

[Pachamama]

73. Why do Americans obsess about Breasts? The camera shot was 7 secs long &

there was absolutely no breast to be seen. The camera was on the witness testifying and for under ten seconds panned to her and then away.


It never ceases to amaze me about the constant sexualization of breasts and particularly mothers nursing in this country. She was feeding her child and quieting the baby. Nothing sexual about that. And why, why would your first assumption about Swamp Rat's father in his 70's was to assume he wanted a burlesque peep show? Maybe his Dad find's the act of a mother feeding her child and comforting it a beautiful and gentle thing? :eyes:

[knitter4democracy]

74. Yeah, that's an odd comment.

Why are breasts so sexualized, and why would anyone think that all men would only want to see a mama's breasts to get all sexually excited or whatever?

Honestly, some people here are odd.

[knitter4democracy]

72. The baby was too young for a sitter.

The hearing was going to go on too long for a sitter, she needed to fly across the country and couldn't leave her nursing baby without her that long, and the baby wasn't a distraction.

Sheesh! It's just nursing, for pete's sake! It's not like she started doing a strip-tease or anything. She wore an appropriate outfit and showed nothing while keeping her baby fed and happy. What's wrong with that?

It just bothers you because the opposition is making hay with it? So what? They'd find anything and everything to make fun of rather than take it seriously.

[GreenPartyVoter]

20. Yeah, seriously. She didn't do it to get attention, so yell at the ppl who

focused on it, not her.

[Fire Walk With Me]

32. Repubs love embryos and babies, JUST DON'T FEED THEM!

That sort of thing should be illegal. :sarcasm:

[ElectroPrincess]

43. Yes, and it's a natural occurrence - at least in the past ...

One must ask, "why all this inane focus on what's natural?"

[TahitiNut]

34. People eat and drink on TV all the time. What's the problem?

The kid's a mammal. Aren't you? :eyes:

[seaglass]

53. What would you have thought if a person sitting in the same

spot started chomping on a cheeseburger?

It doesn't have anything to do with people on TV shows that eat, it's the appropriateness of breastfeeding at that location in that situation.

[Swamp Rat]

38. Why would anyone film a woman breastfeeding instead of Ambassador

Wilson, or whomever was speaking?

[DistressedAmerican]

40. Breastfeeding Bothers You? Ouch My Virgin Eyes!

[mzmolly]

46. Because the child was hungry? What's wrong with breastfeeding?

I wonder why our society is so against doing what's best for a child?

I actually didn't watch her breastfeed, as I thought nothing of it. And, I managed to watch the hearings in spite of a hungry child being fed ... imagine that. ;)

[Rhiannon12866]

54. For what it's worth, I agree with you.

But I didn't notice this while watching the hearing, so it's possible that Jon got footage other than what we saw on C-SPAN.:shrug:

on edit: And I don't watch "Desperate Housewives," either.:puke:

[Dora]

66. The breastfeeding woman called in on Randi Rhodes

I heard her call - she said she was breastfeeding in the room because the alternative was to have a very noisy baby.

Which is worse? Having a baby making lots of hungry fussy noise in the background, or having a baby silently breastfeeding?

I think it shows poor judgment on the media's part to have filmed it. If the baby had been noisy, I imagine they would have done what they could to keep the noise off the audio. But apparently a breastfeeding baby makes good political television.

[burythehatchet]

69. I'm a big fan of breast feeding,

but what about just stepping outside. There were people milling in and out of there.

[Dora]

70. Ya know, I don't know why she didn't.

She didn't say on the radiom, and Randi gave her a healthy dose of "WTF were you thinking.

Because I didn't see the clip on tv (don't have one) I won't dare to push my opinion on the matter any further.

I do think it's kind of screwy to fly across the country to attend a congressional hearing but bring your infant child to it. I think it shows a lack of respect for the formality of the institution.

[Mark Williams]

2. Video Soon At DEMbloggers.com

Im going to post the video soon over at DEMbloggers.com

[Hissyspit]

3. Yes! He ripped into Bush on the 'I think of Iraq every day...' thing, too

[FreedomAngel82]

4. Good!

Sounds like this week is going to be good!

[Hissyspit]

5. Used a good amount of footage from the hearing, as well.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

7. I found his coverage extremely disappointing. He mocked the

unprofessionalism (which I am sure wasn't the Dems fault considering they were in the dungeon), and showed the woman breastfeeding, mocked Ray McGovern for his OIL acronym.

[burythehatchet]

11. come on that was hilarious

did you catch his final comment..."baby steps", in reference to impeachment.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

18. Yes, I did. I'm sorry, I think this is way too important, and needed

much better coverage from him, and yes he whooped Bush and that was Fantastic!

[Beaverhausen]

44. BABY STEPS!!! I loved when he said that

I took it to mean not to think these memos are going to instantly change everyone's mind about impeaching Bush.

Since it isn't as sensational as a blow job it will take the public longer to realize what a lying criminal he is and that we need to get rid of him. But they will come around. slowly. baby steps.

[Hippo_Tron]

15. He made some remarks about the dems, but he tarshed Bush

Give the guy a break, he has to fill a segment and frankly the woman breastfeeding was a bit funny. He also mentioned that the reason it was so unprofessional was because the Republicans wouldn't give them an actual hearing room.

[DistressedAmerican]

41. Thank You! He Was Not Criticizing The Dems With That Remark.

He was noting what douchebags the repugs were being sticking them in that basement room.

[Matariki]

21. this is Jon Stewart on the Daily Show, right?

it's a comedy show - not news coverage.

[Hissyspit]

26. Yes, COMEDY

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

30. But the thing is that there are so few vehicles to get the truth out

there, that I'm disappointed that he made light of it.

[Telly Savalas]

31. People who watch the Daily Show already know that Bush is an asshole

[MsUnderstood]

47. he mocked something?

Wow -- the daily show mocked a real news event. . .umm it is on comedy central.

It is a sad day for us all that we have to rely on a comedy show to inform us of the national politics . . .and berate it for not having the same standards as real news networks WHO IGNORE THE WHOLE THING!

[Vincardog]

49. Did you forget he does a comedy show? We are supposed to have

a sense of humor. Get over it. I am glad he mentioned the DSM at all.
Baby Steps first hearings then 06 elections then
IMPEACH THE ENTIRE CABAL.

[Hissyspit]

8. Lewis Black on, too. Cool.

[tinfoilinfor2005]

9. Excellent...showed bush saying, "I think of Iraq every day"

and humiliated him for saying it.
The line is catching in the craw of a lot of people, and Jon zeroed in on it. YAY.

[burythehatchet]

13. I find Jon's impersonation of bush the absolute finest

the little laugh

[Lisa]

51. you beat me to it!

As I was laughing myself sick last night, watching Jon Stewart's rendition of "Bush describing his lunch", I realized that he's got a much more accurate take on Bush's mannerisms (including the shifty eyes and the smirk) than most of the impressionists out there today.

The guy on Leno's show (who only looks like Bush because of the wig and prosthetic makeup he uses) is okay with the accent, but he's either unwilling or unable to incorporate the petty, self-satisfied side of Dubya -- at least not to the extent that's evident in clips like the "piece of work" moment. Jon Stewart, and possibly Will Ferrell, capture Bush's persona much more realistically.

[NewJeffCT]

19. what did he say, may i ask

i didn't watch... i'm not usually up at this hour, so forgot to tune in

[Hissyspit]

23. It's on again at 1 a.m. Also, it will be the 11:30 p.m. rerun tomorrow

[burythehatchet]

25. go to dembloggers.com

he has video on line very quickly

[tinfoilinfor2005]

29. He said, "Oh, you really think about Iraq every day? You mean to say

you think about the war you started every day? Is that because you tied a string around your finger to remind yourself?"

[Jacobin]

22. Dwight Yoakum (sp) is utterly insane

Why the fuck was he invited?

[Hissyspit]

24. He has a new album. n/t

[immoderate]

35. I thought Dwight Yoakum was great.

He was really funny.

BTW, I get the feeling that there are a lot of people around her that don't understand that the Daily Show is a COMEDY show.

Stewart's job is to get people to laugh!

I know I've heard him say it.

--IMM

[Evergreen Emerald]

63. Yeah, but take that damn hat off Dwight!

[SouthernDem2004]

65. He has no hair under the hat.

The only hair he has left is on the sides and in the back. Guess he is a little insecure.

[Kolesar]

64. Yoakum was dreadful

If he was from the Mammas and Pappas I would have said he used too much LSD in the 1960s.

That was a great show last night, though.

[OhNoTheyDidNot]

27. Saw that tonight .... gotta Love Jon Stewart

[newyawker99]

39. Hi OhNoTheyDidNot!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[DistressedAmerican]

42. Welcome To DU OhNoTheyDidNot!!!

The more the freaking merrier!:toast:

[FloridaPat]

28. More people will remember the whole thing because apparently

a lot Americans can only pay attention if there's sex involved. So you get the nutrition with the sex.

As for breast feeding in public - who cares! And it was great she flew all the way accross the country for it!

[Melodybe]

33. I liked him pointing out Bush laughing at the expense of our troops

Don't forget Dean is on Thursday and Bill Moyers will be on tomorrow.

Two of my favorite liberal guests!! I know we'll have to suffer about 30 rightwing book whore to make up for it, but DEAN ON THE DAILY SHOW!!! HELL YEAH!!!

[oxbow]

37. Don't take stuff so seriously

if we can't laugh at ourselves, we're doomed.

It's a comedy show anyway, they won't talk about the DSM seriously unless John Conyers himself goes on as a guest (which isn't a bad idea....where's the daily show's email?)

[Spazito]

45. I loved Stewart's new name for the bush/blair team

Primesident Blush! ROFLMAO, it is perfect!

[klebean]

50. so did we...

My 17yo son cracked up over "Primesident Blush."

My son quipped, "Huh - it's The BlairBush Project" after we heard the report from the IAEA
(late summer 2002) on Pacifica Radio denying BlairBush's allegations of WMD's...

I remember my disappointment when Craig Kilborne left the Daily Show and Jon Stewart
took over - but I had no idea of the immense improvement yet to come.
I :loveya: Jon.

[Lisa]

52. that statement intercutting Bush and Blair was just priceless!

The scary thing is that it really did seem to be one person making it, if you closed your eyes.