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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 10:44 AM
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No longer a registered Freeper, darn it!
I went to Freeper central yesterday, and posted a total of 3 or 4 times. Today, I'm informed my posting privileges have been revoked.

So, these yahoos want to bash everyone who's head isn't in their nether regions and spout ignorant RW cliches, but let someone differ with an opinion, and they're gone.

Interesting. I must have posted to one of the elite in there, because I was shown the door in such short order.

Maybe it's best. I would have eventually gotten barred anyway. This saved time.

Do you have a story about your own experience on 'the other side'?


:patriot:
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 10:46 AM
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1. Been banned 3 times.
Not surprising though. We have the same policy here, and for a good reason.
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 11:37 AM
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12. What about debate?
The way I see it, the very reason there are forums is to discuss issues. The type of person who visits one is, in my opinion, predisposed to being a bit argumentative in the first place, and should be able to take a flame or two.

I bowed out of a discussion last night because I was tired of the heat. I didn't personally attack anyone, and wasn't offended. I think free speech and differing opinions are what run these boards.

Anything else is just a room full of people spouting cliches and patting each other on the back, isn't it?
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 11:45 AM
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17. There are other boards for that.
If you want debate, go to those boards. It's that simple.
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 12:05 PM
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22. So, last night's discussions...
on immigration and Civil War mwmorials should have been posted elsewhere? Or did I misunderstand your post?
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 12:15 PM
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24. I'm not making comments about specific posts.
But if you're on DU, you had best be a liberal. Vice-versa for FreeRepublic. That's how it is - a place where people can safely discussion issues amongst their own.
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insane_cratic_gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 12:09 PM
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23. We debate here
quite vigorously, here you learn something.. there, you loose brain cells trying to debate with twits.
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BlueStateModerate Donating Member (227 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 10:47 AM
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2. To be fair...
It's the same situation here. In my lurkings, I've seen scores of people with just a few posts, often not even overtly trolling.

Personally, though, I've never tried to register on FreeRepublic.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 10:48 AM
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3. My First Post I Was Booted
It was a post about how DeLay should take responsibility for his actions. I guess the truth hurts....
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 11:42 AM
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14. Get this..
I took issue with the gushing about U.S./ Vietnam trade relations that were opening up. One poster said DUH-bya was 'drawing his enemies closer', when I pointed out Prime Minister Kai's human rights record, and refusal to visit The Wall.

That was all she wrote, as they say.

I guess it was more than some of them could take. Big bad Republicans kicking butt, huh?
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 10:50 AM
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4. my boyfriend and i got an entire message board shut down:)
it was a famous guitarist's message board and he loved to talk politics. he was a rightie, but we got along just fine and we bashed each other constantly:) and remained friends! until his wife got out of hand and attempted to publically chastise me, apparently for debating her husband, who is the one that started the political thread in the first place. all hell broke loose and the board went down:) it's up again and there are no political discussions allowed, so i'm told. yoko won:) that is the reader's digest version of the story. it was a hoot!
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 11:43 AM
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15. I'm not tougching that...
your boyfriend, his wife. Not going there.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 12:16 PM
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25. hahahaha!
no, nothing like that! she just thought it was disrespectful for someone to treat her rock star hubby that way... i guess she didn't see how he was talking to me;) he liked to be treated as one of the guys... she had a much more exhaulted view:) he loved talking politics with me and my boyfriend, we loved it too. wifey-poo couldn't hang though and said we were disrespectful. we treated him like an average joe, not a guitar god, and he liked it. everyone else there kissed his ass... and wifey-poo's. i don't kiss ass:) not even those attached to my guitar heros:)

boyfriend and i have determined we never want to meet our guitar heros again!! hahahaha!
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 04:38 PM
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26. I see.
..."we treated him like an average joe, not a guitar god, and he liked it. "

Sounds like she wanted the guitar god thing to be the only way anyone related to him. Somehow, that doesn't soind like the kind of person who loves someone for who he is, if that's who she thinks he is...


:eyes:
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 04:43 PM
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27. bingo!
she was always trying to speak for the band, etc. there was apparently no room for a 'regular joe' in her ideal of her rock star husband. he was having a blast! and it was clear he liked being treated just like everyone else... guess wifey just couldn't stand that thought! what?? her grand hubby putting his pants on one leg at a time? hahahaha! oh well. my boyfriend called her 'a rock star's wife' and that was the straw that broke yoko's back;)
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 04:45 PM
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28. Yoko!! Haha
I was just gonna say that!
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 05:04 PM
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31. some people
have said it to her face... or at least posted such things in her threads;) it was brilliant and oh, so funny to watch!

she actually started a hate thread against me! outside of the political thread!!! she said i had lost respect for her and her husband. not true! i never lost respect for her husband; he is still one of my favorite guitarists and i know the next time i see him at one of his gigs, i'll get a hug, kiss and a 'hiya june!'.

and i didn't lose respect for her until she started a hate thread against me! what's to respect in that?? haha!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 08:12 PM
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35. Yep
And also glad to hear he wasn't your boyfriend. I was a lil confused at first. ;)
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assclown_bush Donating Member (573 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 11:01 AM
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5. I was registered there for a day or so,
It's not as much fun to Troll in there as I would have thought. I can hardly navigate through all the vomit on the site. I was surprised that my Freeper nic, XtianTaliban, was not immediately pulled. I would have figured the nic alone would have offended the Freeper sensibilities.

:puke: freepers
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 11:45 AM
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16. yeh, I noticed abyssmal
design flaws. The site navigation sux.

Maybe my profile, whick included my own decidedly left website, got their panties in a wad right away.
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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 11:17 AM
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6. I've been a member there for a long time
I'll have to go look, but I've been there for years. LOL! You have to play the game at first until you get your post count built up (along with general trust)... then you can strategically place bombs which cause folks to stop and think. There is a whole sub-set to Freak-a-ville that isn't very vocal. They lurk and read. Just last week I had a couple of messages from this group that thanked me for bringing up an aspect they hadn't considered.

What you need to know:

1) Many republicans are concerned (borderline upset) that their party seems to be morphing into a church service

2) Many republicans are extremely concerned about the deficits (these would be the pre-Reagan republicans)

3) The republicans who are fed up do not need the 'shock and awe' approach to politics that so many here aspire to share. They need gentle prodding... a little nudge there an easy guide here. It is very difficult for them to swallow the sour pill that has become their party whole. It's a pride issue, I think.

4) There are a few aspects/planks of the GOP that republicans will not sacrifice no matter how horrid their party becomes. Because of that, we need to show them (with reason and logic) that we have a better means to work those aspects/planks. (Fiscal responsiblity, abortion, state's rights, etc.)
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 11:50 AM
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18. "What you need to know:"
Thanks. Maybe I came on too strong.

I thought I'd eventually be booted, but for crying out loud, I posted to a total of 2 people!

I've seen enough over there, though. I simply couldn't lurk without ralphing over the stupidity the site drips with. And remaining silent when I see an issue I take issue with has never been my forte.
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Lecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 07:21 PM
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34. interesting
I tried that approach, right now I'm at about 2 posts (lol)...it's just so hard to pretend like you are a freeper, it goes against my whole being. It just feels dirty...

I admire your strength and patience!
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 11:19 AM
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7. I go Freepin' on occasion
just to get their point of view. Some of these folks are really scary. It's just unbelievable to me how they swallow the propaganda hook, line and sinker. Not much independent thought over there at all.
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 11:54 AM
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19. No, not a whole lot
of thinking of any kind.

I love the way any liberal's appearance, hairstyle, outfit, whatever is guffawed at. Especially given what some of the main players of the DUH-bya administration are sporting in the toupe department. Don't even get me STARTED on Bolton's freaky mustache.
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BlueStateModerate Donating Member (227 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 11:23 AM
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8. Can some of you guys...
link to the posts you've made? I'd like to see just what you mean by "prodding".
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 11:59 AM
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20. link...
Here's the thread from yesterday when I first posted on the subject.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=3487950&mesg_id=3487950

It's a copy paste job from the site, so it's accurate.
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 08:33 PM
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40. I doubt that anyone who currently posts there
would want to post a link...that would blow their cover to anyone who might be trolling this thread, don't you think?
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 11:26 AM
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9. Don't sweat it
They kick out mouthbreathers too, for simply questioning Bush's immigration stand or actually, anything that doesn't follow a very prescribed party line. They're a bunch of Stalinists. During the 2000 primaries, RimJob, who had been calling Smirk a pansy-ass liberal suddenly got religion and started purging the McCain faction. Hundreds of people were banned and all pro-McCain threads were pulled. Many former Freepers believe that money started to flow to Rimjob from the Bush/Cheney campaign, "donated" by lowly operatives through Paypal in small amounts.

Then, just before the war, when even many Freepers were questioning what all the rush was about, Rimjob posted a warning that anyone who was against the war was not welcome, and opposing the war was tantamount to treason.

They have purges over there every few months. The saner people there are leaving voluntarily in disgust. Burkeman1, who was one of their main posters for several years, turned against the war and Bush and now the GOP. He was too well-respected there to get banned, so he banned himself and split. He's at another site now, and represents the sane minority of the conservative movement.
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 11:33 AM
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10. OMG
The funding sounds ominous. A propoganda arm of the administration! How wild is that!?

The same thing has happened over time at a certain other place, whose initials are CS (the crime forum there, to be exact). The wingers have run out anyone who won't kowtow to the proscribed set of ideals.

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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 04:47 PM
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29. Spare the shock over a "propaganda arm" of the administration. It's
in full effect already. Remember the African American "conservative columnist" getting paid major green to pimp No Child Left Behind? Gannon/Talon/GOPUSA.com? Among others?

Shrubco is ALL ABOUT the propaganda. In its various forms, it's possibly THE most important tool of their whole administration.

FR.com is a small but actually somewhat important part of that whole operation, especially considering their role in Rathergate, Swifties etc.

Every shrub and major Repub officeholder press conference or news soundbite is propaganda for shrubco. Swift Boat Veterans. Etc. Etc.
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 06:19 PM
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32. Sure, I get it.
Having never run in too many Repub circles, I'd never heard of Freepers till I got here. I didn't realize how 'world class' they were supposed to be in neocon political discussion.

I'd heard of DU from several sources, and had to check it out.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 11:35 AM
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11. I think they had a purge a few months ago
over immigration.

I posted something about Fred Phelps, just a link to his site and a question about what they thought of him. Did they agree or think he was a nut.

Banned within minutes.
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 12:03 PM
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21. Phelps...
there was alink to a blog yesterday about 'anti-war protesters'. The pics showed Phelps at a soldier's funeral. That guy got roasted bad. The SS Neverdock, that was the name of the blogger's "ship".
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 04:52 PM
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30. Is their administrator really named RimJob?
I don't go over there because it gives me a headache. I can take the content, but just trying to get from point A to B fatigues me.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 08:28 PM
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37. JimRob, but the inversion is more evocative of his relationship to bushco
'nuff said
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 08:16 PM
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36. Interesting
Sounds very suspecious about RimJob's little "conversion."
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Cats Against Frist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 11:41 AM
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13. I lasted for about a week, once
Managed to make a bunch of posts that were "libertarian" or "pro-small government" in nature.

And, of course, since they're MOSTLY all lap-dog, talking-point religious authoritarian loonies -- I was hated, and eventually banned.

Party of smaller government, my ass.
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 06:45 PM
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33. I've been registered there, and posting since 2001.
Edited on Wed Jun-22-05 06:48 PM by norml
And never once has any Fwee Wepubwikan dared question my loyalty to Commander Cuckoo Bananas, though I've questioned quite a few of them on their loyalty, and their ideological purity.

I'm often starting "Barf Alert!" threads to get them to read stuff that might educate them.

Of course I could be just saying that to mislead any trolls, and to get them to turn on each other.

Also I change my grammar, my writing style, and even my punctuation when I'm posting over there.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 02:14 AM
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43. "Also I change my grammar, my writing style..."
You'd have to. Freepers are notorious for poor spelling, grammar and punctuation. You'd give yourself away if your writing suggested you had anything above an 8th grade education. :P
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 08:30 PM
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38. Welcome back. Grab a shower and a cup of coffee...
Have a rest. You deserve it!

:patriot:
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 08:33 PM
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39. I got banned within a day or two last year
I was playing it really cool too. I guess I didn't come off as moronic as I should have to appropriately fit in.
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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 08:42 PM
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41. Let me suggest an alternative strategy...
Become a real Freeper.

Because the Bush Administration has been so inconsistent from its professed conservative principles (smaller government, personal freedoms, etc.) try attacking from the right. Create an "ultra-conservative" persona, and stick it to the Administration on that basis. They'll be less likely to dump you, and you'll get to enjoy the other Freepers trying to defend BushCo from the left.
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EnfantTerrible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 09:30 PM
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42. I lasted 7 and a half minutes there before lifetime banning...
couldn't help myself. Just had to poke 'em with a stick and watch 'em get mad. They took exception to my opinions about "Let the Eagle Soar (Sore)".
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