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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 01:43 PM
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Rove addresses Downing Street on MTP
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8306049/page/2/

Downing Street Memo
GREGORY: As you well know, critics of this war have seized on what’s being called now the Downing Street Memo, based on meetings that Britain’s Chief of Intelligence had with American officials about the war. One issue that comes up in that memo and subsequent memos is British concerns about the fact that the White House in their view wasn’t adequately thinking about what happens after the regime falls.

ROVE: I'm glad you brought that up because I want to put that in context. First of all that is the British — a Brit making a comment about what he perceived to be U.S. policy. But remember the time frame, it is months and months and months before the balloon goes up in Iraq. And in those intervening months there was plenty of time planning for post-war efforts, vast amounts of planning. You never know exactly how a war is going to plan out. Napoleon once said, 'vast numbers of refugees enormous problems with food aid'- did not happen. Vast uprising- didn't happen. That we would see a vast uprising by hundreds of thousands of Iraqis- didn’t happen. War is ugly, but a lot went very well with this effort and in part it was because the United States government and our coalition partners used the months to plan for any eventuality.

GREGORY: But if you're talking about the number of troops necessary, the level of American casualties, the force and intensity of the insurgency…did the president mislead the American people about the cost of the war or was he just simply surprised by what happened?

ROVE: I would go back to the president’s statements over the last several years and I would defy you to find one speech which he talked about Iraq where he doesn’t say there would be difficult times ahead, that we had a long road to hope that a great deal of sacrifice was going to be called for by both the American people and by the Iraqis to achieve this goal. Look, we do not underestimate the ferocity and the anger and the viciousness of the people that we face. We are in a war. Some people may treat it as a law enforcement matter and be worried about indictments from the U.S. attorney from the southern district of New York. But we recognize this administration and the American people we are in a war and the only way you have a successful outcome in the war is to aim for a complete and total victory, which is exactly what we’re doing.

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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 01:49 PM
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1. Idoits
of course its a war. You attack Iraq. For what??? WMD ??? To get rid of Saddam, To spread liberty of Freedom, come smell my arse

Ooops sorry I fart.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 01:51 PM
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2. david corn's take on that gregory/rove ...... i don't know what to call it
time on teevee yesterday.

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/capitalgames?bid=3&pid=3738

"Karl Rove is a hypocrite. I know that's hard to believe. And you're going to need a chunk of proof before accepting that conclusion. So let me give it my best shot.

In April, Rove delivered a speech at Washington College in Chestertown, Maryland. Trying to come across as a statesman (instead of a hack political strategist), he urged participants in today's tough political and policy debates to engage in high-minded discourse. "Most people I know on both sides of the aisle," he remarked, "believe in the positions they take." He continued, "Unless you have clear evidence to the contrary, commentators should answer arguments instead of impugning the motives of those with whom they disagree."

Let's see how well he takes his own advice. Last night, Rove was interviewed by NBC News' David Gregory on Hardball. Gregory began the sit-down by asking Rove about the recent vote in the Senate on the John Bolton nomination. Democrats had once again prevented an up-and-down vote because the Bush White House had continued to withhold information they had requested regarding Bolton. Rove replied,

Well it's sad. I mean they're putting their commitment to politics above their commitment to doing what's right for the country."

(more at link above)
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Options Remain Donating Member (475 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 01:54 PM
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3. scary
"the only way you have a successful outcome in the war is to aim for a complete and total victory, which is exactly what we’re doing."
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wurzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 01:54 PM
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4. And Gregory let him get away with that rubbish?
The "Brit" was the head of the British equivalent of our CIA. The memos are about the LACK of Planning! Who is treating the 911 attack as if it should be a matter for the Southern district of New York? How can he now talk about "a great deal of sacrifice" while there is a huge tax cut for the wealthy while soldiers go without body armor. What the hell was Gregory thinking about!
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Burried News Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 01:55 PM
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5. Sure is innerestin Rove quoting NAPOLEON
Maybe it's the Gannon factor.
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