lets just get the hell out of irak right now!!

[scarface2004]

fuck irak...what has it got to do with anything??!! who s the asshole that wants to blow 400,000,000,000 on that piece of shit of a country!!

how goddam stewpid do the right wing wackoes think we are??!!

[Rick Newland]

1. this is a good post

on why you should not be a spokesman for the party.

[proud patriot]

2. Welcome underground

:hi:

[WilliamPitt]

4. Actually

There are probably millions and millions of Americans saying exactly the same thing tonight. Not a spokesman? Perhaps. In the main line? Definitely.

Welcome aboard to both.

[hippiechick]

3. spell much ?

:eyes:




:hippie:

[IndianaGreen]

5. This is the most brilliant and profound post on Iraq I have ever read

Bring the troops home now!

http://www.bringthemhomenow.org/

[mddemo]

6. troops home now

yeah lets bring the troops home, lets put the kids back into the prisons, get the plastic shredder up and running again. tell the Kurds, sorry but saddam is back in charge etc, though i may not agree with the repugs, but this is one regime that needed to be gone. Ive yet to meet an Iraqui or an afghani that wants the taliban or saddam back. I for one wouldnt want them, how about you.

[AP]

7. Isolationism and a chaotic Iraq would merely serve long term RW interests

I think that the solution clearly has to include some sort of strategy which makes Iraq a bulwark against any future RW BS.

Do you really want to do with Iraq what the US did with Afghanistan?

Had Afghanistan been turned into the country it was in 1972, there might not have been a 9/11, and there certainly wouldn't have been the huge bombing campaign of 2002.

If the US pulls out of Iraq, the RW isolationists will be energized, and the black ops will be able to run some sick attack on the US which they'll blame on Sadaam, which will make people want to vote Republican, which will put them back in power so that they can continue their rip off of the American middle class.

Leaving Iraq now gives the RW the same fodder that not finding OBL and SH gives them.

I think the best thing that could happen is that a Democrat gets elected, turns Iraq over to the UN, and within 4 years Baghdad becomes the Paris of the ME, with lots of profits flowing back to the Iraqis, building businesses, wealth and a middle class. The Dems then use that as an argument for why FDR and Keynes are right, and America embraces the same policies in America, and the Dems become the party of sensible domestic economic and foreign policy.

[Padraig18]

9. As much as it gripes my ass...

... we DID break it, so we HAVE to buy it! We could, however, turn it over to the UN as soon as a Democrat is elected and simply spend the money per UN guidelines for reconstruction, etc. .

[AP]

10. I don't know why America's attitude isn't

let's build up a middle class so we can sell them things in a competitive market, rather than, let's steal their oil and then pay tons of money from the public purse to our cronies at Haliburton to do nothing.

Well, I know why that's the attitude. It's because RW'ers bought themselves a government which is going to transfer American and Iraqi wealth to them. Nonetheless, there's more money to be made for everyone if Iraq were allowed to become a functioning country with a big, rich middle class.

[paradisiac]

8. no way,

let's put the pressure on BushCo to turn Iraq over to the Iraqi people and help them create democracy, and the best way to do that is let the UN take a lead role.