H.J.RES.10 (flag burning amendment) - how did YOUR Representative vote?

[paineinthearse]

77 Dems voted "nay", 12 Rethugs vote "yae" (they will be dealt with later). Go to the site to see which members crossed party lines. Not doing that again, as last time I put that much effort into this kind of a post it was lifeted by another forum WITHOUT CITING DU AS THE SOURCE as their own work; it then appeared in another DU forum, citing the plagerizer!

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2005/roll296.xml

FINAL VOTE RESULTS FOR ROLL CALL 296
H J RES 10 2/3 YEA-AND-NAY 22-Jun-2005 2:40 PM
QUESTION: On Passage
BILL TITLE: Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States authorizing the Congress to prohibit the physical desecration of the flag of the United States


Yeas Nays PRES NV
Republican 209 12 10
Democratic 77 117 8
Independent 1
TOTALS 286 130 18

---- YEAS 286 ---

Aderholt
Akin
Alexander
Andrews
Baca
Bachus
Baird
Baker
Barrett (SC)
Barrow
Bartlett (MD)
Bass
Bean
Beauprez
Berkley
Berry
Biggert
Bilirakis
Bishop (GA)
Bishop (NY)
Bishop (UT)
Blackburn
Blunt
Boehlert
Boehner
Bonilla
Bono
Boozman
Boren
Boswell
Boustany
Bradley (NH)
Brown (OH)
Brown (SC)
Brown, Corrine
Brown-Waite, Ginny
Burgess
Burton (IN)
Buyer
Calvert
Camp
Cannon
Cantor
Capito
Capps
Cardoza
Carnahan
Castle
Chabot
Chandler
Chocola
Clyburn
Coble
Cole (OK)
Costa
Costello
Cox
Cramer
Crenshaw
Crowley
Cubin
Cuellar
Culberson
Cunningham
Davis (FL)
Davis (KY)
Davis (TN)
Davis, Jo Ann
Davis, Tom
Deal (GA)
Delahunt
DeLay
Dent
Diaz-Balart, L.
Diaz-Balart, M.
Doolittle
Doyle
Drake
Duncan
Edwards
Emerson
English (PA)
Etheridge
Everett
Feeney
Ferguson
Fitzpatrick (PA)
Foley
Forbes
Ford
Fortenberry
Fossella
Foxx
Franks (AZ)
Frelinghuysen
Gallegly
Garrett (NJ)
Gerlach
Gibbons
Gillmor
Gingrey
Gohmert
Goode
Goodlatte
Gordon
Granger
Graves
Green (WI)
Green, Gene
Gutknecht
Hall
Harman
Harris
Hart
Hastert
Hastings (WA)
Hayes
Hayworth
Hefley
Hensarling
Herger
Higgins
Hobson
Holden
Hostettler
Hulshof
Hunter
Hyde
Inglis (SC)
Issa
Istook
Jefferson
Jenkins
Jindal
Johnson (CT)
Johnson (IL)
Johnson, Sam
Jones (NC)
Kanjorski
Kaptur
Keller
Kelly
Kennedy (MN)
Kildee
King (IA)
King (NY)
Kingston
Kirk
Kline
Knollenberg
Kuhl (NY)
LaHood
Langevin
Lantos
Larson (CT)
Latham
LaTourette
Lewis (CA)
Lewis (KY)
Linder
Lipinski
LoBiondo
Lucas
Lungren, Daniel E.
Lynch
Mack
Manzullo
Marchant
Marshall
McCarthy
McCotter
McCrery
McGovern
McHenry
McHugh
McIntyre
McKeon
McMorris
McNulty
Melancon
Menendez
Mica
Michaud
Miller (FL)
Miller (MI)
Miller, Gary
Mollohan
Moran (KS)
Murphy
Murtha
Musgrave
Myrick
Neal (MA)
Neugebauer
Northup
Norwood
Nunes
Nussle
Ortiz
Osborne
Otter
Pallone
Pascrell
Pearce
Pence
Peterson (MN)
Peterson (PA)
Pickering
Pitts
Platts
Poe
Pombo
Porter
Price (GA)
Pryce (OH)
Putnam
Radanovich
Rahall
Ramstad
Regula
Rehberg
Reichert
Renzi
Reyes
Reynolds
Rogers (AL)
Rogers (KY)
Rogers (MI)
Rohrabacher
Ros-Lehtinen
Ross
Rothman
Royce
Ruppersberger
Ryan (WI)
Ryun (KS)
Salazar
Sanchez, Loretta
Saxton
Scott (GA)
Sensenbrenner
Sessions
Shaw
Sherman
Sherwood
Shimkus
Shuster
Simmons
Simpson
Skelton
Smith (NJ)
Smith (WA)
Sodrel
Souder
Spratt
Stearns
Strickland
Stupak
Sullivan
Sweeney
Tancredo
Taylor (MS)
Taylor (NC)
Terry
Thompson (MS)
Thornberry
Tiahrt
Tiberi
Towns
Turner
Upton
Walden (OR)
Walsh
Wamp
Weldon (FL)
Weldon (PA)
Weller
Westmoreland
Whitfield
Wicker
Wilson (NM)
Wilson (SC)
Wolf
Wynn
Young (AK)
Young (FL)



---- NAYS 130 ---

Abercrombie
Ackerman
Allen
Baldwin
Becerra
Berman
Blumenauer
Boucher
Brady (PA)
Butterfield
Capuano
Cardin
Carson
Case
Clay
Cleaver
Conyers
Cooper
Cummings
Davis (AL)
Davis (CA)
Davis (IL)
DeFazio
DeGette
DeLauro
Dicks
Dingell
Dreier
Ehlers
Emanuel
Engel
Eshoo
Evans
Farr
Fattah
Filner
Flake
Frank (MA)
Gilchrest
Gonzalez
Green, Al
Grijalva
Gutierrez
Hastings (FL)
Hinchey
Hoekstra
Holt
Honda
Hooley
Hoyer
Inslee
Israel
Jackson (IL)
Johnson, E. B.
Jones (OH)
Kennedy (RI)
Kilpatrick (MI)
Kind
Kolbe
Kucinich
Larsen (WA)
Leach
Lee
Levin
Lofgren, Zoe
Lowey
Maloney
Markey
Matheson
Matsui
McCollum (MN)
McDermott
McKinney
Meehan
Meek (FL)
Meeks (NY)
Millender-McDonald
Miller (NC)
Miller, George
Moore (KS)
Moore (WI)
Moran (VA)
Nadler
Napolitano
Oberstar
Obey
Olver
Owens
Pastor
Paul
Payne
Pelosi
Petri
Price (NC)
Roybal-Allard
Rush
Ryan (OH)
Sabo
Sánchez, Linda T.
Sanders
Schakowsky
Schiff
Schwartz (PA)
Schwarz (MI)
Scott (VA)
Serrano
Shadegg
Shays
Slaughter
Snyder
Solis
Stark
Tanner
Tauscher
Thompson (CA)
Tierney
Udall (CO)
Udall (NM)
Van Hollen
Velázquez
Visclosky
Wasserman Schultz
Waters
Watson
Watt
Waxman
Weiner
Wexler
Woolsey
Wu



---- NOT VOTING 18 ---

Barton (TX)
Bonner
Boyd
Brady (TX)
Carter
Conaway
Doggett
Herseth
Hinojosa
Jackson-Lee (TX)
Lewis (GA)
McCaul (TX)
Ney
Oxley
Pomeroy
Rangel
Smith (TX)
Thomas

[swag]

1. Earl Blumenauer is a great Rep

and I'll be sad if the day comes when he is not my Congressman.

He is a solid "nay."

[stevedeshazer]

16. ALL Oregon Democrats voted nay - even Hooley

Then there's this Walden character....



THIS is flag desecration. ^^^^^^^^

[Pastiche423]

25. Yep, my DeFazio voted NAY

[swag]

28. Walden

seems intent on filling Wes Cooley's shoes.

[stevedeshazer]

33. There's Denny Smith, too, and thanks for the memories!

Wes Cooley's shoes are damned hard to fill.

I'm sure Wes is somewhere out there working with "Special Forces, Korea" protecting some alfalfa field and plotting his next secret mission while collecting his wife's, er, domestic partner's husband's veterans benefits. After all, he's a Phi Beta Kappa. :crazy:

[swag]

34. Oh, lord.

Best post of the year.

Thank you.

[SCDem]

2. My congressman (D) voted for it - Spratt of SC

[Double T]

3. Doing The Important Work Of Congress

[livinginphotographs]

4. Eric Cantor - yea.

Funny, I didn't even really need to bother looking.

[BlueEyedSon]

5. Rush Holt - Nay

[blm]

WOW...Kucinich switched positions to a No vote....YAY! I am so glad he

finally switched on this, too.

I always UNDERSTOOD why he used to vote with the GOP on abortion and flag-burning, especially considering his district, but I always WISHED he'd align with the other progressives on these votes.

Now, he's switched on both, and my decades of faith in him are truly rewarded.

[Zomby Woof]

20. I am with you

This was the one issue I was never hesitant to vocally and vehemently disagree with DK. I am happy that he has concluded what the rest of us have: Flag-burning is hardly epidemic, the Constitution should not be amended lightly and for political expedience, and if a country's supposed symbol of freedom is truly such, it can withstand its own desecration as an expression of free speech, no matter how uncreative or distasteful some may find that expression.

[AllyCat]

6. Tammy Baldwin, (D-Patriot) voted nay!

She's terrific!

And preventing flag-burning will help the nation...how? Hey, if someone has one of the magnetized flags on their car, and I hit it in an accident, is that flag-desecration? Or is it desecration only if their car catches on fire? Stupid, stupid politicians. :dunce:

On edit: Oh yeah...she's from Wisco!

[ComerPerro]

7. Damn Melissa Bean, hooray for Dennis Moore

Bean is the one I voted for (IL 8th) but Moore is the Rep for this part of Kansas (Lawrence).

Thats just disgusting.

[indy_azcat]

8. a couple of nay repubs are Michiganders

way to go Ehlers and Hoekstra! :applause: And my old rep Kolbe from AZ, too!

[Endangered Specie]

9. Miller (NC) - nay - he is a great guy.

unfortunately Etheridge voted yay, though he comes from a very conservative district, im suprised they pick a democrat at all.

[paineinthearse]

10. Massachusetts

Yae - Delahunt, Lynch, McGovern, Neak, :wtf:

Nae - Capuano, Frank, Markey, Meehan, Olver, Tierney

[SCDem]

11. I just sent an email off to my (D) rep

telling him that I'm concerned that the symbols of our nation are more important than it's inhabitants.

[SCDem]

12. I just sent an email off to my (D) rep

telling him that I'm concerned that the symbols of our nation are more important than it's inhabitants.

[anarch]

13. say, that's odd...I don't seem to have any represenation

d'oh!

[paineinthearse]

22. anarch

Welcome to DU :hi:

I see you are from DC, my condolences. You most assuredly deserve voting representation!

[Ariana Celeste]

14. Not surprisingly, my Rep. voted yes.

Steve Buyer. Ugh. If I just lived a few miles east of here, I'd have Rep. Carson. :loveya: I sure like her.

[BeeBee]

15. Every day I am more and more glad

that Lynn Woolsey is my representative.

[NYdemocrat089]

17. Yea

He's a rethuglican :crazy: though.

(I have no idea how the other 2 replies got there mods.)

[NYdemocrat089]

18. Yea

He's a rethuglican :crazy: though.

[NYdemocrat089]

19. Yea

He's a rethuglican :crazy: though.

[friesianrider]

21. Current rep voted YES, old rep voted NO

We just moved so I keep track of how our old rep votes. God, I miss living there.

[in_cog_ni_to]

23. I should go burn a flag on Jerry Weller's doorstep.

Except he spend most of his time in Guatemala and he probably would never know about it. :grr:

[Zomby Woof]

24. Kucinich got it right!

I wonder how anyone who says he switches his vote for "political expedience", when opposing this amendment is highly unpopular in his district and across America in general, can maintain a straight face now when letting that accusation fly.

Go DK!

[blm]

29. True. In his district this is EXTREMELY unpopular. Lots of old vets

and Catholic retirees.

Anyone who thinks DK is about political expedience doesn't know what the hell they're talking about, and has damn poor sense when it comes to other human beings.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

26. Baird (D-Wa) punked again.

He's all over the map as a supposedly "liberal" democrat. Every time I think I might vote for him again, he caves. Screw him. The Greens get my votes in '06 for senator and rep.

[Burma Jones]

27. Van Hollin - Nay

[Spirochete]

30. Dumb Baird voted for it (WA State)

He seems to be all over the place. Half the time he votes with us, the other half against us.

[Withywindle]

31. Oh SWEET!

Both "my" Reps (Luis Gutierrez, who represents where I live now, and Rick Boucher, who represents where I grew up), voted NAY.

Boucher's district - the whole southwestern end of Virginia - is pretty red too, that took some stones. :thumbsup:

[paineinthearse]

32. I'm lazy (and heading out)

Who wants a project? Go to the source (see first post for link) and cull out who crossed party lines.

[Ilsa]

35. My Rep, Dr. Paul, voted "No" Yippee! eom

[paineinthearse]

36. I hope all recognize the significance of this amendment...

I hope all recognize the significance of this amendment; the bill of rights have never been amended. Period.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

37. Schiff - NAY

[TaleWgnDg]

38. What the hell does it MEAN? hello?

.
What the hell does it mean? hello? This is what passed the U.S. House of Representatives on Wednesday, June 22, 2005, the proposed new amendment to our federal constitution:

"Not inconsistent with the first article of amendment to this Constitution, the Congress shall have power to prohibit the physical desecration of the flag of the United States."

Ummmmm, as a lawyer, I say that this proposed amendment grants broad discretionary power to any U.S. Congress! Too broad. Much too broad. For example, what does the word "flag" mean? Anything congress wants it to mean. How about the lynchpin word "desecration?" Again, that word means anything that any congress wants it to mean.

Holy cripes!

You know that T-shirt you own with the U.S. flag on it? Some day down-the-road an over-zealous congress could have you arrested for wearing it. How about a bikini with the U.S. flag imprinted upon it? Bikers love to air-brush the U.S. flag upon their motorcycles. Can they? How about if you own a blanket with a flag imprinted on it, can you lie upon it in your own backyard? In your house? Can your dog? And, the list goes on and on.

How stupid can it get? This is why the U.S. Supreme Court has said that certain acts done to the U.S. flag are allowable u/ the Freedom of Speech of our constitution's first amendment. Get the government the hell off our backs! Why amendment it?

.

[paineinthearse]

41. Why amendment it?

Exactly. If it ain't broken, don't fix it.

It was good enough for Jefferson, it's good enough for me.

[aTm_exrugger]

39. My letter to my congressman

In regards to your signature on the flag desecration amendment. I surely hope that you do not limit the desecration to that of only burning flags, since not only is it a form of protest but also proper disposal of a retired flag. A good source to reference in determining the specifics is to look at the flag code. http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/flagetiq.html#5
Section 8 concerns respect for the flag, and how better to respect the flag than to put this code into enforcible law. I couldn't help but notice that your own website was in violation of this code. Specifically the 'Support the Troops' banner emblazons this text on the flag (See Sec. 8.g). Before supporting legislation concerning flag desecration, please ensure that you show the flag proper respect. Thank you.


Matt

[TaleWgnDg]

40. Uh-oh. Flag "desecration" police! (Welcome to DU) . . . n/t