"We are fighting them there so we don't have to fight them here...".?

[kentuck]

McClellan just repeated that for about the one thousandth time. But I'm wondering, just where and how would we be fighting them here? Would they be coming in over the porous borders? Would they still be flying in on airlines? Would they invade us with submarines?? i would like more details on just how they envision we would be fighting "them" here? How do they think they would most likely infiltrate our country? Just curious?

[Mr_Spock]

1. Just more empty rhetoric from the ass wipes in the White House

Ignore them, they'll eventually go away :|

[Brotherjohn]

2. And just HOW does Iraq preclude them from coming here? Answer: IT DOESN'T!

Actually, I'd think it gives them one HELL of a training and recruiting ground. And apparently, the CIA agrees (report out earlier today; sorry I don't have the link).

[kentuck]

5. Exactly !

That's one of the most nonsensical statements that they shovel out.

[Brotherjohn]

12. I think it ranks right behind: "9-11 taught us oceans don't protect us...

... anymore".


Well DUH!! We learned that with the advent of the ICBM, you moron!

Not to mention the submarine, the airplane, the steamship, etc. Oceans have not protected us since the War of 1812.

Statements like this make me wonder if they really ARE just horrendously incompetent, and not just a pack of theiving liars. Either way, they've got to go.

[CJCRANE]

18. Oceans don't protect you

if you give visas to known terrorists and let them wander at will.

[Brotherjohn]

3. Dup post. DELETE.

[madeline_con]

4. They seem to want us to believe

that every 2-bit yahoo with a bomb strapped to his torso has the funding, wherwithal (sp) and let's not forget BRAINS to come here and kill a bunch of Americans.

Baghdad flight delays are the only things keeping them at arm's length! :sarcasm:

[shraby]

9. One of the press corps should ask him

exactly what do you mean by "so we don't have to fight them here".

[madeline_con]

14. He'll just get all flustered ...

and make himself look stupid AGAIN.




Then he'll mutter something insulting about the person asking the question and do his little bobble head smirk. Then, he'll point to one of his spin doctors for an "appropriate" question, citing his 'new rule' about press conferences and who gets called on.


):+( =assclown


Later that same day, some RW reporter will bash the guy asking the question, and offer their take on just how and where the terrorists will be arriving if we bleeding heart, Saddam-supporting liberals don't keep our big mouths SHUT!!

[punpirate]

6. Don't try to make sense of it...

... it's just cover-their-ass politico-speak.

This one is in the category of "Nicaraguan tanks are only two days away from the Texas border" talk.

Sounds as if it means something, but it doesn't actually mean anything.

Cheers.

[madeline_con]

15. "Nicaraguan tanks ..."?????

Geez, I thought they'd be Venezuelan for sure!!!


:rofl:

[punpirate]

21. Just a little ancient history...

... that was one of the excuses the Reagan administration used to explain away funding the Contras in violation of the Boland Amendment.

Same-same. Fighting them there so we don't have to fight them here, etc.

[madeline_con]

26. Don't foget the ...

ROCK MUSIC played really loud! :headbang:

[MisterP]

31. will the Redskins push them back to the Rio Grande?

[Dr Fate]

7. Do "free" Iraqi's like living in the middle of the USA's new battlefield?

I wonder what the "free" Iraqis think about the fact that the USA is saying that their homeland is now being used for our own personal battlefield against other terrorists.

Are we there to "free" Iraq or are we there to turn it into a battlefield?

Which is it?

[madeline_con]

Could explain the rise in 'insurgents'.

I'd be miffed itf the same thing happened here. Imagine if someone decided to take out the regime we have, and stayed for dinner. And breakfast. And lunch and a few years...

[Dr Fate]

24. Mind if we use your neighborhood for a BATTLEFIELD???

You see, I have to use YOUR neighbor hood as a battlefield b/c I dont want to endanger MY family. So sorry. At least you are "free."

[madeline_con]

25. We're fightig them here....

so we don't have to fight them in our backyard.

Excuse me, I'll need to set up the tripod over here, so have the kids move their soccer game, would you?

[BeyondThePale]

8. What gave us the right to make that decision?

So, our message to Iraq is that we are going to fuck up your country to keep our country safe. Hey, I bet the Iraqis will be thrilled to learn this!

[5X]

19. Exactly, racist statement if ever there was one n/t

[madeline_con]

27. yep

that's pretty much the gist of it.

[madeline_con]

30. thrilled to learn it?

They knew it about ten minutes after the first marines showed up.

[AlCzervik]

10. Bush linked Iraq and 9/11 AGAIN the other day.

WASHINGTON (AFP) - President George W. Bush defended the war in Iraq, telling Americans the United States was forced into war because of the September 11 terror strikes.

http://tinyurl.com/dba4u

[madeline_con]

28. Gawd i wish

he'd just shut up and sit down for a while. Or go take a nap!

(Did he do his bobble-head smirk thing?)

[Bluerthanblue]

11. i'd far sooner

fight 'them' here-

then maybe we'd be alot less anxious to spend our trillions on weapons of death, than on ways to truly enhance the lives of all on earth-

If we saw what 'we' are doing, i believe 'we'd' demand it stop.


"When men talk about defense, they always claim to be protecting women and children, but they never ask the women and children what they think."

Pat Schroeder, American politician and feminist

[madeline_con]

29. Only one problem with this:

>>>"If we saw what 'we' are doing, i believe 'we'd' demand it stop."<<<

The U.S. wouldn't put up with any such nonsense in their own yard. Tanks rolling down the streets, checkpoints, depleted uranium, dead kids... are you kidding? No way! We'd be late getting to Walmart!
:sarcasm:


BTW, any time someone provides a report complete with pics of the carnage, it's labeled Al Jazeera propoganda and laughed at.

I wonder if the neocons really believe that, or just want to put all that blood and gore they're paying for out of their tiny little minds?

[blm]

13. They weren't THERE till Bush invaded. Saddam kept the extremist groups OUT

of Iraq. Bush just brought them in.

Just as Bin Laden wanted.

Does Bush justify killing over a hundred thousand INNOCENT Iraqis just because he wants ti use THEIR country to lure terrorists there?

Is that how the 3000 Americans who were killed on 9-11 would like to see their deaths avenged, by killing a hundred thousand more INNOCENTS?

[CJCRANE]

16. It's all part of the "script"-

It's all part of the neocons' idea of "shaping reality". Bush and his ilk seem jealous of the Greatest Generation who had World War II, so they seem to have set up their own "generational war" that they can be part of and feel patriotic about.

It's all based on lies and "fixes" and set-ups if you look underneath, but on the surface they get to look like heroes (from the comfort of their armchairs, mind you).

[friesianrider]

17. What, are the terrorists dumb like *?

Like they haven't had recruitment go up 60% since we started ths immoral and illogical war...I'm sure they can't attack us here AND in Iraq/Afghanistan.

Not everyone can't walk and chew gum at the same time, like our Great Leader.

[malmapus]

20. Saw a picture made by a fellow soldier post Desert Storm

Of the Iraqi invasion force

It was a camel in a dingy with a 50 cal on its back.



So my point is..


IT CAN BE DONE :sarcasm:

[Disturbed]

23. Why can't "they" fight us here in Amerika?

"They" could have crossed the U.S. border in the south &/or north along with millions of others anytime within the past three years. Why have no attacks occured? It is a valid question, isn't it?

[livinginphotographs]

35. Don't you know?

Because our Glorious Leader has kept us so safe! Why, after 9-11 there hasn't been a single terrorist attack on American soil! Did you hear that? Three whole years! It's incredible!

:sarcasm:

[CJCRANE]

22. I also think

that these simple phrases are what Bush's handlers repeat to him over and over again to convince him that he's done the right thing.

[David Zephyr]

32. The GOPBOTS all say this in rote.

I was out in Palm Springs and this guy wearing a huge cross around his neck started chatting with me while we were in a check out line at the grocer. He brought up Bush and Iraq. I pointed out that things weren't going so swimmingly well there. His response:

"We have to fight them there, so that we don't have to fight them here."

You can't reach people like this. It's impossible.

[livinginphotographs]

33. Whenever someone says that bullshit, I always

post pictures of dead or maimed Iraqi children (either by us or by "insurgents") and ask if these children and their families appreciate us taking the fight over there instead of here.

It comes down to selfishness basically, and the fact that if you can't see the suffering, you don't have to think about it.

Another good point is that since Iraq never attacked us, was there ever really a risk of them fighting us here? Out of one side of their mouth they laugh about the puny Iraqi army which is no match for our big strong 'Murikans, and out of the other side of their mouths they act like Iraqi tanks would be storming DC as we speak if the brave Chimperor hadn't attacked Iraq.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

34. What "we" are you talking about, kemosabe?

Did McLellan or some other shrubco initiate suit up over there?

[ComerPerro]

36. I'd hate to imagine fighting them here, because Conservatives refuse to

They will not fight.

They refuse to defend and protect America.

If these people will not enlist when our country needs them most, we know that we can't count on them to defend America at home either.

[spanone]

37. In the words of Penn & Teller: BULLSHIT