the president is retreating on S.S. Private Accounts, sure gave in quick

[mopaul]

now he's got to go out there and sell this war!

[Kingshakabobo]

1. Bush is a p-ssy. n/t

[KansDem]

3. So is his son! (eom)

[SoCalDem]

2. That was his "plan" all along..

He put forth the most objectionable idea, then spread the lies that "the dems have NO suggestions"..and then readily retreats when spineless dems come forward with "their plans"..and he's ready to "compromise"..

The real issue?? There is NO reason for any dem to even WANT to change it..

He briar patched them into "admitting that there's a problem"..and he's just the guy to "solve" them..:puke:

This is how repubes work.,. they are content to nibble at the edges, until they eventually eat the whole thing.. they are patient, and every time we give them a taste, they only get a bigger appetite

[lpbk2713]

4. You mean he's FLIP-FLOPPING?

Heaven forbid.

[patrice]

5. Sell: Bush Kills.

War jobs = Votes for a Culture of Death - Paychecks = Dead People.

............................


Pro-Life is one of many Lies.

King George/Dick's secrecy about Defense Contracting is a halmark of his LACK OF RESPECT for Life.

[punpirate]

6. All he needs is for a bill...

... to appear in Congress. From there, the `pug leadership will diddle with it in the dead of night in the conference committee and they'll get what they want. Or enough to eventually carry out their real intentions--killing SS.

Hate to be pessimistic, but, by now, that's SOP for these bastards.

[July]

9. Why else are they creating a bill that does nothing?

Doesn't create private accounts, doesn't do anything about solvency in the future, doesn't change benefits or retirement age. So what does it do?

I think you've hit the nail on the head. It will be stealth "reform."

[endarkenment]

11. exactly

This Bill Does Nothing.



Right.

[July]

14. Is that sarcasm? If so, I don't get it.

I'm agreeing with the poster above.

[endarkenment]

15. Me too.

legislation that is claimed to do nothing is completely and totally suspect. As others have pointed out: this is a vehicle to trick Democrats into either putting forth something that actually does something (raise taxes, cut benefits, or delay retirement) and then use that against them in '06, or worse: jam odious shit into the conference version of intentionally different 'do-nothing' bills.

The fact that they can and have screwed the Democrats in conference repeatedly should be warning enough: just say no to any SS 'fix'.

[Javaman]

7. bait and switch folks, just wait for it.

[wakeme2008]

8. Right he has only given up for THIS year... It would come back NEXT

just like his taxes... One on top of another year in year out..

[Javaman]

19. like bad food it always comes back up

[Al-CIAda]

10. The WORTHLESS ones will FAIL us again. They are going to

capitulate and sell us up the river. We are FUCKED.

Watch the complicity on this one -it WILL be the end of the 'party'.

[rodeodance]

12. I did not get that impression this morning in his speech--fact is--he talk

ed a lot about private accounts. He is not giving in yet.

[endarkenment]

13. And there will be quite a few concerned folks

right here on DU chiming in with 'yes lets raise the cap' or 'well we do live longer so we should raise the start age'.

It aint broke don't fix it. Fix the deficit, that is what's broken. Start with those billionaire tax cuts. Then we'll talk.

[mopaul]

17. bush: 'people are livin' longer & we need to do somethin' about it'

or some such shit

[Al-CIAda]

18. Put back the money you STOLE Mr. Bu$h. n/t

[underpants]

16. I expect him to declare victory on SS any day now

maybe wait a week and then get the propaganda catapult ready to go. MSM will lead with "After President Bush's victory in informing the American public about the crisis of Social Security..."